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# 31
08-30-2012, 03:44 PM
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Wars are never won by an army. Really. An army can subdue people for a time.

Star Wars made this point themselves, as the gigantic dictatorial Empire was ultimately defeated by a weak bunch of rebels. In one mere generation (from Anakin to Luke). And that's not so much fiction as we would think. How long do our modern dictatorships last on our own small planet after all? A generation or two? All are ultimately defeated by a bunch of rebels, it's not sustainable if the people see examples for alternatives all the time.

Now Star Trek has a superior economic model, paired with a superior political model. An open alliance where members are protected and which has a truly democratic government. And most importantly, where the monetary system is abolished and poverty no longer exist (due to the replicator). Imagine the Empire would encounter them. The already grumbling populations of the Empires systems would instantly revolt and join the Federation, eating the Empire from within. They would be so busy trying to fight rebels everywhere the Federation could just sail in calmly and make friends. As they always do.

PS
The discussion fascinated me btw, is the hyperdrive is faster than the warp drive? A bit of internet searching made clear to me that data and film appearances of the hyperdrive are completely inconsistent on different occaisions. No one can claim they actually know because there is always some example that opposes it. I don't think Lucas really cared.
Give me the jump drive any day.
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# 32
08-31-2012, 07:10 AM
Good lord I enjoyed reading that... I have no input for it though except that I'll never be able to think of Ackbar without thinking of Sollvax's comment.

Good times.
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# 33
08-31-2012, 10:25 AM
There is not faster than light travel in firefly (its all in one BIG solar system)

The Original USS enterprise on several occasions crossed distances that make the Entire star wars galaxy look like a fish pond

The Next gen enterprise did it too

Janeway being a sad sack was not capable of it
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# 34
08-31-2012, 07:24 PM
Bah, this is silly. We all know both sides would loose to the ships in Babylon 5. A single beam from a Whitestar would slice both a Star Destroyer and a Sovereign in half with one shot. And do it while doing a looping roll, for extra style points.

And who needs either Klingons or Sith. When you got the Narn on your side?
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# 35
09-02-2012, 04:54 AM
in all honesty the empire probably wouldn't even bother with the federation... the federation controls such a tiny insignificant area it wouldn't be worth bothering with... in the SW galaxy there are private companies who control more space... the Corporate sector which was just a bunch of corporations controlled 30,000 systems and a decent portion of a spiral arm and the empire pretty much just ignored them... same with the Hapans and the Hutts

tho the federation controlling a tiny portion of the galaxy is by design... ST has always been about exploration and there isn't much of that going on nor is it very exciting to do it when you already control a majority of the galaxy
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# 36
09-02-2012, 06:59 AM
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Bah, this is silly. We all know both sides would loose to the ships in Babylon 5. A single beam from a Whitestar would slice both a Star Destroyer and a Sovereign in half with one shot. And do it while doing a looping roll, for extra style points.

And who needs either Klingons or Sith. When you got the Narn on your side?
What!
How could any of them stand up to the Dalek Empire?
EXTERMINATE!!

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# 37
09-02-2012, 07:24 AM
Well they are trying to kill Star Trek anyways... I say "Give it a go".
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# 38
09-02-2012, 07:35 AM
I would like to see a no holds bar bare knuckle cage match to the death between JarJar and Neelix tho... so long as after the match we execute the winner
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# 39
09-02-2012, 07:36 AM
what i like about star wars is the greater continuity that results out of george lucas exclusive rights on the franchise. He has a say in anything and like that it rarely contradicts itself like star trek does in nearly every voyager episode.
CBS has some specialists for the franchise, but it seems they don't do quite a good job in my opinion. The writers of the shows rarely looked into the technical manuals...or just losely interpret it.

Kirk traveled accross the entire galaxy...the enterprise D did nearly the same accross the quadrant.

continuity also goes overboard when time travel plots are done...plenty of those in trek.

still it seems star trek is closer to real science, although way off in certain cases.

So, in my opinion, star wars has the better thought out universe and story...but trek feels more like "that could be done in future"
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