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Captain
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# 41
09-01-2012, 07:19 AM
Hey now, the Feds point defense console works GREAT in the vault for clearing fighter spam, so it's not entirely useless.

Unfortunately I may have to roll a Fed PvP toon if the leech goes Fed just so I can use all the cool KDF toys because they're SO FREEKING CHEAP to the other faction. Wo knows, IF they give the leech to the Feds it MAY kill PvP and the KDF in one swipe (what DS wants' right?) so there won't be a reason for me to play at all.

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# 42
09-01-2012, 08:00 AM
Stahl bashing...

Do you remember when Stahl was fresh and new, even before he was the executive producer? Back when he and Jackalope played KDF every day and were all about the KDF...

What happened to that Stahl who came into the KDF forums, waded into those early KDF forum fires and proclaimed that great things were in the pipe and his actions would speak for him.

Do you remember that guy?

I remember quite a few nice things came to the KDF for a bit, and then those windfalls drizzled out.

What happened to that brave soul? He was kinda cool. Woulda been nice if he could have followed through on more of those words he said.

Alas, it seems we are left to quote Poe's raven, "Never more."

Edited to add:

Stahl do you remember in those early days I said I would put down my pitch fork and torch, and I did. I even championed for you. I have grown quiet in my disillusion, yet I think I have started to find my voice again.

Do you still play the KDF?

Do you see the population?

Do you see that the metrics are only statistics and statistics can lie?

Is it not time to allow the small faction to provide a better revenue pipe, even if it is still smaller than the Feds?

We have come once again full circle Mr. Stahl, back to the field of dreams. This is true for the KDF as it is for PvP, If you build it, if you make it novel, if you find ways to keep it balanced, we will play it.
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Last edited by piwright42; 09-01-2012 at 08:11 AM.
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# 43
09-01-2012, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by cmdrskyfaller View Post
I see a lot of federation players whining about the KDF leech console.

Have they noticed the MACO shields also give their ships power?

Plasmonic leech is +1 per weapon per activation
MACO shield is +2 per activation.

Both have the same timer duration.

The difference? KDF gets the power bonus by shooting, feds by getting shot AT.

...and the fact that the federation gets the STF MACO shield for FREE while KDF has to BUY a ship to get it.


The leech cannot be given to the federation unless the maco shield or a similar shield is given to the KDF. Otherwise one side would have the ability to double-stack power bonuses.

Can you imagine how overpowered a federation ship would be with +40 power gain by using both of these? Ridiculous.

yes this ty ^


This is what i mean that if u share leech console it will be the end of KDF.
Even feds wont like it being so much OP with 125 125 110 110 powers

I mean whats the reason for a subsystem power to exist if they are all maxed out?

So wrong thats what i have been saying but besides how much wrong and OP this will be one or two feds came in and said that its the right thing to give the console to federation LOL


From this only you understand how much whining scumbags some federation dudes are.
Not grown up at all not logical at all not FAIR at all.

Now if this was my game i would ban those 2 feds that asked to get leech console along with maco shields for extreme unfair balance destroying propusing ideas.
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# 44
09-01-2012, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bloctoad View Post
You don't see Protoss buildings spawning Zerglings. Factions and their respective tech/abilities must remain distinct or factions become obsolete and the gameplay closer to Farmville pointless. But of course Feds will receive Plasmonic Leech as Dan Stahl hates Klingons.
ow RLY?

Tell Dan Stahl that some parts from hes car are bought by my money

Maybe this helps so he like us more ?

Also tell him to come down here and answer my question also asap.

Because if some1 doesnt answer us if company is planning to share our leech console via lockboxes then you wont be getting any money at all from me and most of the klingons that are aware of this major issue.


Also day by day i inform all the klingon in game about this so they know and dont waste more money in a faction that you might plan to kill.

Danny why do u hate us?

Isnt it better to keep us balanced and not underpowered so we can keep on entertaining ur federation friends?
Even feds will get bored of us if they got leech+maco shields....

I dont want to flame things up but before i spent a single euro or a dollar on this game ever again i must know if balance will be preserved

Last edited by thesnyndicate; 09-01-2012 at 08:29 AM.
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# 45
09-01-2012, 10:32 AM
Yeah I remember all that. Sadly.
Dan " The man who had a plan " Stahl in the old days.

I think I'm gonna simply refer to the less-specific Cryptic, PWE, Fed fans, noobs, newbs, nuubs, fanatic, etc in my rants.
The direct Personal attacks do not seem to work to our advantage, if one looks at the history of our grieviances over the years.

but yeah, I'm angry at the slow growth of the faction and its assets.

I also remember being told that PWE had our best at heart with open arms, full faction play.

SO much for PWE wanting a full KDF faction....

Still the fight must go on. Make a noise so they know we exist. Show them we want fullness of content, both story and filler tech.
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# 46
09-01-2012, 10:43 AM
The answer to everything is yes - and more - 2 more powerful Fed ships before X-mas

Most likely the Vesta and the Andorian Broadsider Battleship

"Paid for by the Dan Stahl Foundation to elimiate the Kdf"**


**No relation to the person who works at Cryptic
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# 47
09-01-2012, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by levi3 View Post
The answer to everything is yes - and more - 2 more powerful Fed ships before X-mas

Most likely the Vesta and the Andorian Broadsider Battleship

"Paid for by the Dan Stahl Foundation to elimiate the Kdf"**


**No relation to the person who works at Cryptic

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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
Dan " The man who had a plan " Stahl in the old days.
I don't think Dan has very much leeway these days. I'm sure he can offer his opinions on stuff but, as your sig used to say, it's not-so-Perfect World that calls the shots.

And you're right, making noise is pretty much all we can do now. Hopefully the KDF will be the squeaky wheel as opposed the the nail that sticks out. Only time will tell which it is.
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# 48
09-01-2012, 03:21 PM
Well if I was Stahl I would ignore such threads with 1 posts out of two consisting in mere bashing. If you could stop that we might go somewhere and get some attention for the KDF. At least try to prove that you're more mature than the average player whinning on the forum all day long for random crap (my sovereign sucks, my console isn't op, I can't buy the jemmie ship, etc). Use your reason, not your heart, if you want to convince cryptics management. And never forget to vote with your wallet.

For instance, it would be nice to boycott the racing costume if you want a KDF one next time. It's a bit off topic but that's the kind of behaviour that may be carefully watched. And of course, don't forget to say it POLITELY without any anger on the forums.

Last edited by diogene0; 09-01-2012 at 03:24 PM.
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# 49
09-01-2012, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
Well if I was Stahl I would ignore such threads with 1 posts out of two consisting in mere bashing. If you could stop that we might go somewhere and get some attention for the KDF. At least try to prove that you're more mature than the average player whinning on the forum all day long for random crap (my sovereign sucks, my console isn't op, I can't buy the jemmie ship, etc). Use your reason, not your heart, if you want to convince cryptics management. And never forget to vote with your wallet.

For instance, it would be nice to boycott the racing costume if you want a KDF one next time. It's a bit off topic but that's the kind of behaviour that may be carefully watched. And of course, don't forget to say it POLITELY without any anger on the forums.
Funny Roach made the same comment on one of my threads over a month ago - yeah he holds to his high principles

I felt at the time like responding that he should set an example and change his "bitmepwe" name as a start!

Oh and those 2 Fed ships ARE coming soon + I have it on good source that :

A)the Fed will not get another cloak

B) The particale burst will be increased to a more useful 10km from the current 5 (frankly it should be 50!! exposing any cloaked ships close on the map not just in weapons range(10km)
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# 50
09-01-2012, 04:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
Well if I was Stahl I would ignore such threads with 1 posts out of two consisting in mere bashing. If you could stop that we might go somewhere and get some attention for the KDF. At least try to prove that you're more mature than the average player whinning on the forum all day long for random crap (my sovereign sucks, my console isn't op, I can't buy the jemmie ship, etc). Use your reason, not your heart, if you want to convince cryptics management. And never forget to vote with your wallet.

For instance, it would be nice to boycott the racing costume if you want a KDF one next time. It's a bit off topic but that's the kind of behaviour that may be carefully watched. And of course, don't forget to say it POLITELY without any anger on the forums.
This is why I focus most of my 'whining' onto the BoP/Raptor issues, because that's ultimately what I care about in this game at this time.
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