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# 11
09-03-2012, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by arcleader View Post
Indeed-towards the end of DS9, some of the ships most people thought were galaxy classes were, in fact, Ambassadors. at certain angles the ships look nearly identical, and it was said that at one point the Ambassador numbers were quite substantial.

I've managed to make a "passible" (as in KINDA looks like it) rendition on the Exploration, but as an RPer, sometimes it really just needs an actual ship.

Regarding the CBS part, if the Centaur and Miranda, as well as the Oberth, were introduced so long ago but are still in active service, and the Constitution refit is still in service, I fail to see why the NX-class replica (which states that it is the old design with modern equipment) and the TOS Constitution (which at the very least could be included as an exclusive skin for the Fleet Cruiser) can't be put in.

Speaking of skin packs for ships, does anyone know why the Skin Packs (like the Imperial class) are no longer available on the C-Store, or if they will be returning anytime soon? If they are returning, perhaps the TOS Constitution skin could be put in for Cruisers and Fleet Cruisers who want to try and keep with the continuity.

They won't be returning. They have been introduced as per character unlock with the fleet starbases... so that means 2000 Zen (20 Mil EC) for a +1 ship and the skin. But no more per account unlock skins for those that don't have them.

Edit: you got my interest. Could you please provide source where it is show in DS9 scenes and confirmed that there are Ambassador class ships instead of Galaxy class. As far as i remember, there are very few Ambassador class ships seen in DS9 (S1E1 comes on top of my head)
The most commonly seen ships (aside from the Defiant) were Galaxy,Excelsior and Miranda from what I remember.

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# 12
09-03-2012, 03:33 AM
Well I love the design of the Typhoon and the 100K hull looks mighty tempting, it's already in game as an NPC ship so why can't we have the opportunity to fly it?
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# 13
09-03-2012, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ryanev View Post
Edit: you got my interest. Could you please provide source where it is show in DS9 scenes and confirmed that there are Ambassador class ships instead of Galaxy class. As far as i remember, there are very few Ambassador class ships seen in DS9 (S1E1 comes on top of my head)
The most commonly seen ships (aside from the Defiant) were Galaxy,Excelsior and Miranda from what I remember.
I know this is not directed at me, but I hope you don't mind I'll answer it.
"Emissary" showed us an Ambassador refitted with more Galaxy-like nacelles, pylons, deflector dish and some other details.
It's very unlikely Starfleet would do that, had the desgin been slated for decommission after the introduction of the Galaxy.

After the DS9 pilot, there have been at least two "most likely Ambassadors" later in the show.
With the exception of the Enterprise-C and the USS Ambassador herself, all Ambassadors had a registry beginning with 26 and the Valdemar (26198) and the Exeter (26531) were mentioned in seasons 2 and 6 respectively.
The Encyclopedia lists both as Ambassador class ships.
The Exeter was lost during the Dominion War.

One of the reasons the Ambassador class was not shown in the battle scenes late in DS9 was the fact that no computer model of it was ever built.
The Norway never appeared in those battles either since its computer model was lost after "First Contact".
So absence of ships from those battles can't readily be used as a resoning they have been put out of service IMO.

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# 14
09-03-2012, 07:08 AM
no more Fed ships, kthxbye.
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# 15
09-03-2012, 07:39 AM
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The Dauntless was NOT a Fed ship. It was an alien ship made over to look Fed so some nut could have what he perceived as revenge and get the Voyager crew assimilated.
And yet we saw the Feds using it during the Battle of Procyon V in the 26th century.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/...zati_Prime.jpg

So either Species 116 have joined Starfleet, or the Feds have adopted the design.
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# 16
09-03-2012, 07:49 AM
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And yet we saw the Feds using it during the Battle of Procyon V in the 26th century.

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/...zati_Prime.jpg

So either Species 116 have joined Starfleet, or the Feds have adopted the design.
It's an impossible future.
1. Starfleet uses Phase Cannons in that future. (just listen carefully and look at the colour of those beams)

2. In that future the expanse encompassed a hughe portion of the Galaxy yet Enterprise destroyed the network that generates them so the expanse cannot exist.
Hence the entire future with its conflict cannot exist.


Not to forget: it's a generic mishmash of all the CGI ships that had available from DS9 and Voyager.
So they threw in all they had for good measure.
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# 17
09-03-2012, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by arcleader View Post
I would love to get a little more love out there for the starter ships (Oberth, NX, TOS Constitution, and Miranda), and I wish that they'd make fleet versions of them to use. I love the NX-class, and despite its size, because of its larger crew compared to the Tactical Escort, I think it would make a decent fleet ship. Almost all of the normal ships (and most of their refits and retrofits) have been given fleet variants, and i would love to see these ones join the fleets.

in addition, I would like to personally point out that the Ambassador-class should be introduced. I'm not sure what class it could be (cruiser comes to mind), or how it would be scaled, but it's been said that the refit Ambassadors in the Dominion War "came close to rivaling their Galaxy Class cousins in ability" after being upgraded, and come on-the Excelsior, Miranda and Constitution are still in service, and those are over a century old. I see little reason why the Ambassador would be retired, since it's been said to be even stronger than those ones. I don't care if its an Exploration skin or what-I'd just love to see it put in.
For "low tier ships", the Devs could temporarily create specific missions that range from green (easy), to orenge/yellow (moderate), sort of like the Tholian Ground missions. If The Devs created space missions in this manner, a player could use say, a TMP Connie once and awhile and while not a T5 ship, it could still be useful for particular missions etc. Alternatively, the Devs could create a reward type system. Say a player completes a very difficult mission but does it in say..a Miranda, perhaps the mission rewards shoot way up in quality.

These are "little tweaks" that can be arranged without blowing up the tier of ships, yet making lower tiered ones still fun to play every now n' then.
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# 18
09-03-2012, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ryanev View Post
Edit: you got my interest. Could you please provide source where it is show in DS9 scenes and confirmed that there are Ambassador class ships instead of Galaxy class. As far as i remember, there are very few Ambassador class ships seen in DS9 (S1E1 comes on top of my head)
The most commonly seen ships (aside from the Defiant) were Galaxy,Excelsior and Miranda from what I remember.
Here's an Ambassador Class right here from original footage from the actual DS9 episode......

AT 11:22 into the episode what ship is that fighting alongside a Nebula?..It's an Ambassador Class!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Rna...eature=related
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# 19
09-03-2012, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by paragon92518 View Post
Here's an Ambassador Class right here from original footage from the actual DS9 episode......

AT 11:22 into the episode what ship is that fighting alongside a Nebula?..It's an Ambassador Class!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9Rna...eature=related
That was the USS Yamaguchi. I was not aware anyone had mistaken it for a Galaxy-class (not anyone who knew what the Ambassador-class was, anyway).
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# 20
09-03-2012, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by futurepastnow View Post
That was the USS Yamaguchi. I was not aware anyone had mistaken it for a Galaxy-class (not anyone who knew what the Ambassador-class was, anyway).
Personally, I see very little visual design that looks anything like a Galaxy. The only thing about an Ambassador (I feel) that might scream Galaxy is her warp nacelles.
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