I can tank well enough with my Ody, thank you very much. And I would never use one of the butt-ugly tholian ships, they don't fit in the ST universe at all.

The tank was me and I don't get one shot with my tank character.

A "tank" is a ship (or character) that can take massive amounts of damage from a target while the rest of the team takes it down. They're the one that should be holding aggro. Pretty basic MMO terminology.

Carriers aren't the only ships that can tank either. With the right buffs, heals, consoles, etc. almost any ship can do it. Even the easy-to-shatter escorts.

Now, more horror stories and less "my ship is better than yours" chatting.

Speaking of which... I ran Infected Space this morning. I don't remember if it was elite or normal though... probably normal. Figured it'd be a good game because I saw a couple of veteran passives on the other players.

LOLNOPE. The cube and first spheres went down okay, but then three or four people all started shooting at the same generator. They were taking a while, so I dropped mine to 10% and went for a second. One of them immediately popped the generator I'd just left. >.<

Took forever to get the transformers down on each side, then one of them goes and aggros the tac cube instead of targeting the gate. I never shot at the thing, but it promptly switched to shooting at me anyway. Maybe it didn't like me shooting at the gate.

I've not been doing any STF's lately, just Fleet missions soooo......

There I was....

I come in, type 'Hi" as usual.

No responce.

Fleet mission players are usually pretty good about responding and saying Hi back.

The mission starts, I hit escape to kill the intro and what do I see???

Nobody Shooting!!!!

After about a minute I say, 'Anybody going to help?'

Someone says, 'We're just here for the stuff.'

I'm thinking, what stuff? The stuff we get out of these is junk and these are mostly for Fleet Credits!

I just stop shooting.

Some guy starts calling us all noobes and he comes in with Rainbow/Tecnicolor beams. Then someone else starts shooting with Skittles. I'm just thinking OH GOODY!

They aren't doing any damage.

I type, 'Please take your weapons off stun!'

Nobody does.

Someone says FU.

By now everyone is shooting. Everyone but me is firing Rainbow/Technicolor beams or Skittles cannons.

We made it through the second wave and lost the mission.

Yes, Skittles and Rainbow/Technicolor beams will do the same damage OVER TIME as any well built escort with cannons. But we don't have hours to complete these missions.

the ship takes dmg you say it, and what ship have highest ingame stats?

exaxtly that what i sayed.

no other ship can take this amount of dmg what the one what i have sayed, and that makes it to the only real tank ingame.

any ship can buff or whatever but it not helps on any way a low hull ship will always have low hull or shild.

But not every ship in an STF can be a tank or you never will be able to do the optionals.

that makes no sense for me can you explain what you mean?
you will say 5x tholians can not reach optional in a stf? or i misunderstand you?

A Tank doesn't do enough damage. You need one tank and at least about 3 dds.

And a carrier is never a good dd.

dd?

i think this end in a endless discussion....

lets do the test i say i outdps you on any way with a RAINBOW carrier.

you can use what you want!!!!

my offer for the test you + me + 3 others go into KASE 3 go protect vortex you clear one side solo i clear other side solo, who is faster wins. affraid? if not tell it we make a time when we meat us.

"Taking damage" does NOT make you a tank.
"Taking damage" and "Holding aggro" makes you a tank.

A Tholian Carrier can be built to survive more damage than most other ships in the game... but if you build it that way, then the damage it puts out will be too low to reliably hold the attention of enemies. So that setup becomes pretty much pointless.

There is no reason to become more survivable than you need to be at the expense of damage output - and there are other ships that are much better at finding the optimum balance between Damage output and Survivability than the Tholian Carrier.

And to relate it slightly to the thread, I saw someone in a Freebee Odyssey try to "Tank" Donatra earlier this evening. They stayed alive, and made a pretty lightshow, but they never once had aggro the entire fight.

challange me say me a time tomorrow and we make the run who clears faster a side in KASE solo.