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# 91
09-04-2012, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by naldoran View Post
Wait, what? Since when has LaFamillia beaten up our pre-mades? I've never heard of such.

No pre mades!

We definitely have Soph 2.0 here methinks.

I did read your build, here are a few problems;

1. WAY too many c-store consoles. Most of them are fun gimmicks that aren't worth it compared to a stat-boosting console in the long term for serious pvp. The Aquarius escort is worthless in PvP, as are the worker bees given how much AoE there is. AMS will get you on everyone's hate-list very quickly.

2. You're running [dmg]x3 weapons instead of [acc]x3 weapons; you'll not hit very much.

Treu, aldo within 5 km you will hit 100% (unless its an escort) and all my phasers has crt dmg and acc

3. You're splitting your tac consoles & diluting DPS by running both torps & beams. You're also running torpedoes on a ship that can't turn for crap.

Thats why I have installed the 180 degrees torpedo launcher.

4. Beam Overload 3 is a trap due to massive accuracy falloff.

Still I drain shields massif, but I will try the 3x acc.

5. You didn't even describe your engineering skills, but you're already going to be quite squishy with BO3 and the implied lt. cmdr Tactical officer; fitting in good heals, RSP, emergency power abilities, etc. would be quite tricky...

There is an link were you can see my complete setup (on you tube) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tiq8A5aWTw


I could continue, but I doubt the advice will be heeded. Just keep an eye out for cruisers with Panda tags on them in the queues and see whether they pump out better damage / healing than yours...

Well don't get me wrong but I do take advice! And I play allot pvp's were I meet the panda's. In my team or as enemy's. Will all respect not all members are better than regular players. And yeah some kick my ass

I think this game would suck if you win aaalll the time.
Thank you!

Last edited by delftnl; 09-04-2012 at 03:05 AM.
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# 92
09-04-2012, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by empireofsteve View Post
Catch me in game and we will see. I will not use any consoles from the C store. I want to see how well you do against a Rhode Island with none.
Just try to catch me on chat Unit1@Unit1 we could run an 1v1 if you would like.
Be on line tonight!
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# 93
09-04-2012, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by thishorizon View Post
wow, what an entertaining thread.

i do not think your build is optimized unit1, and there has been some good advice here for you to take into account.

that being said, you as a player, have gotten much better over the past 6 months. i remember popping you so much easier in the past. great to see you find something that works for you, but i do suggest you max a few things here and there....based on the provided feedback.

and because this thread go so crazy so fast, i will just add, that winning pugs 9/10 times will only be a short term trend. sometimes it will be just the opposite.....

and then when people start recognizing you because you are always killing people, you get targeted much more......and you will die much more. this is more of an escort issue....as tac cruisers most of the time are things to be ignored when finding that primary tartet.....they can't support as well as sci or engie cruisers, and the cant spike kill like a tac escort...... so, often they fall to the bottom of the priority list....especially if they are running 2 rsp's and bfi doffs and stuff....

either way, maybe not a good team build, but if it works and you are having fun.....keep rocking it, but if you name your thread using the words GG noob kicking, be prepared for some troll action....

have fun kill bad guys
Well thank you, cant remember you, but undoubted u saw me in pvp several times
Meet you again! Well see how far I am in another 6 months

glhv
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# 94
09-04-2012, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by naz4 View Post
This thread reads like a Soph thread - Mine is best. Look at how superior i am..........
Except that I never claimed any such thing. Your fantasies notwithstanding.
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# 95
09-04-2012, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by starcommando101 View Post
[...]
But I am totally ashamed at the level of troll on this thread. The shout levels of "I can make a much better Oddy! Look at me!" or the "Dude what is wrong with you? Your build is crap trololol!" Come on people... He just want's to show his success in battle, which I applaud greatly. Judging from the video, IT WORKS and who are you guys to yell at him and says it doesn't? If he likes it, let it be, offer some tweaks or fixups here n there but that is it, not brag about you can make a better one, how his build sucks. I thought the PvP community was a little better than this...[...]
Quoted for truth.

And anyway, even if one believes that a certain build is not optimal, one simply cannot say that the OP's build "sucks". There are always things you can improve, and sometimes that is even circular - you can optimize more for X, at the cost of Y, which will make you more effective vs A, but less effective vs B, so people switch to B, so you change your build back, etc. ad infintum. But the OP's Tac Oddy will do what it is built for.


This game is an entertainment activity, and a fun one. So why not just enjoy?
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# 96
09-04-2012, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo View Post
This game is an entertainment activity, and a fun one. So why not just enjoy?
that's a true statement many of us forget in the heat of argument. And it's valid both ways, the person that posts and doesn't understand he/she may be wrong and the persons that posts in reply and gets annoyed because the original poster doesn't want to listen.
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# 97
09-04-2012, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo View Post
Except that I never claimed any such thing. Your fantasies notwithstanding.
I gaurantee if we were to take a poll, your cruiser thread would be read as such by almost everyone.

Reference my fantasies, i make them a reality. The amount of times i've turn you into a smouldering boulder in ques, i could make a screen grab coolage of it
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# 98
09-04-2012, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by naz4 View Post
I gaurantee if we were to take a poll, your cruiser thread would be read as such by almost everyone.

Reference my fantasies, i make them a reality. The amount of times i've turn you into a smouldering boulder in ques, i could make a screen grab coolage of it
This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Perfect World Entertainment Community Rules and Policies . ~syberghost
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# 99
09-04-2012, 04:08 PM
wow, soooo much "I have a bigger **** that you" going on !!!!

To the OP, people in this thread simply have just said that your build IN THEIR EYES could be tweeked and made more optimal is all.

Granted some folk could use lessons in tact when it comes to advice.

Overall I have now come to expect a beating of a few, grown thicker skin and realised that most of what is said is banter nothing else.

Im just the same as most posters, I think think some folk who post on the forums are dicks, but I just rise above it and take it for what it is...... FUN BANTER

Your build if it works for you, then good job enjoy it and have fun.

That is all, carry on..
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# 100
09-04-2012, 07:06 PM
Ahhh nostalgia. Reminds me of the good old days when we had 40 page troll wars with no moderator intervention. Let's keep it going, guys! HULLARIOUS!
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