Lieutenant
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Hi all, I am new to the game and am currently level 8. I have not had the pleasure of choosing a new ship yet but I am wondering how do I learn about the ships available for each rank etc? Also what best weapons and powers to use etc.

I have already started to develop a play style which is keep my distance and firing.

I would struggle to choose between cruiser and escort hence one of my reasons for asking. How do I decide? Also any help you can offer with layouts would be great.

Great community here. Thanks all.
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# 2
09-13-2012, 10:17 AM
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# 3
09-13-2012, 10:30 AM
Basically, yeah - you'll find a huge amount of things work, and almost anything will at least get things done.

However, based on the style you're already starting to develop, I'd propose cruisers will be better for you than escorts.

Escorts are fast, and built for dumping damage from narrow arc weapons that would be hard for a slower ship to keep on target, i.e. dual/heavy cannons. Those weapons have two disadvantages that will hurt your style: All energy weapons have a damage drop off with distance, but cannons start to drop off at closer range and drop off faster, meaning they're best when you shove them right down or up a convenient enemy orifice. They also make you point yourself at your opponent, meaning even if you slow down you're going to be closing distance with them.

Cruisers, however, can load up on wide-arc weapons like beam arrays and circle at long range, relying mostly on their engineering bulk to outlast rather than outgun.

That's not to say that's the perfect answer, of course. There's nothing stopping you from loading up an escort with beam arrays and the 180 degree quantum torpedo launcher that comes with the Regent class and making a fast long range circle strafing ship. It'd be higher damage than a cruiser thanks to the extra tactical powers, and might have tactical options a traditional head-on escort wouldn't. I don't think it would hold up, but I've been proven wrong saying something like that before.

Last edited by hevach; 09-13-2012 at 10:33 AM.
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# 4
09-13-2012, 10:50 AM
It's pretty simple- choose a weapon type based on the maneuverability of your ship. Energy weapons of the same mark number essentially cause the same damage amount, but you'll need to know what the different types of energy are, and what bonus damage come from each type of energy. Don't mix-and-match energy types on a ship, use one kind and equip your console slots with consoles that enhance that type of energy.

Equip you ship with DOFFs (space) that aid your primary weapons, and after setting up your ship ENSURE you put into your tray the powers granted you by your BOFF's (bridge crew).

Theres SO much more, but thats the cliff notes version. More info can be found on the stowiki site.
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# 5
09-13-2012, 10:58 AM
Thanks all, makes a bit more sense. I have alot to learn and my prefered learning style is to ask questions. I have been reading the wiki but I am struggling to find my way around and get the answers.

Currently I have the Miranda class as my first ship and I have dual cannon type things on it plus photon launchers front and rear. I am certain this is not a good set up! I only selected the dual cannons because of the damage.

I will be hitting Lt Cmdr tomorrow I expect hence why I am asking about the ship choice. I know I dont want a science vessel but thats about it. Again, thanks.
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# 6
09-13-2012, 11:05 PM
Well Cannons are not the best weapons for a less maneuverable Cruiser. The best weapons are Beam Arrays. They have 270 degress firing arc. You can keep an enemy ship to the side in the overlapping arcs of fore and aft for what's called a broadside. And depending on your building turn in and unload a Torpedo strike when you can a shield facing down.

Cannons are for more maneuverable ships as most have a narrower firing arc of 360/180/45 for Turrets, Single and Dual Cannons. Science ships between cruisers and escorts in manuverability. But have less weapon slots. And the desirable Cannon abilities are usually not usable on them. Cannons are the preferred weapon for Escorts. They have the manuverabilith to keep the high damage Dual (Heavy) Cannons lined up, and can use the higher tier Cannon skills. Usually Escorts will use Dual Heavy Cannons up front and Turrets at the back. Depending on builds you might have a Dual Beam Array for Target Subystems skills, or perhaps Torpedo's front or aft to delivery a High yield Torpedo volley when you down the shield facing.

I think good way explain ships combat styles if a couple of heavy weight boxers. Cruisers are like Rocky Balboa from the Rocky movies. Rocky basically takes massive amounts of punishment while delivering crushing damage himself. Basically he just out lasts his opponents. While Escorts are more like Mohammad Aly in his prime. "Float like a butterfly. And sting like a bee." Except these bees stings are packs with anti-matter warheads. Cannons has faster damage drop off over distance then beam weapons. So Escorts will do best damage by getting in close and unleashing the punishing volleys. And then pulling out fast before the heat gets too much.
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# 7
09-13-2012, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lordfuzun View Post
I think good way explain ships combat styles if a couple of heavy weight boxers. Cruisers are like Rocky Balboa from the Rocky movies. Rocky basically takes massive amounts of punishment while delivering crushing damage himself. Basically he just out lasts his opponents. While Escorts are more like Mohammad Aly in his prime. "Float like a butterfly. And sting like a bee." Except these bees stings are packs with anti-matter warheads. Cannons has faster damage drop off over distance then beam weapons. So Escorts will do best damage by getting in close and unleashing the punishing volleys. And then pulling out fast before the heat gets too much.
Or think of it as Warrior vs Thief.
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# 8
09-14-2012, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by phil3822 View Post
Thanks all, makes a bit more sense. I have alot to learn and my prefered learning style is to ask questions. I have been reading the wiki but I am struggling to find my way around and get the answers.

Currently I have the Miranda class as my first ship and I have dual cannon type things on it plus photon launchers front and rear. I am certain this is not a good set up! I only selected the dual cannons because of the damage.

I will be hitting Lt Cmdr tomorrow I expect hence why I am asking about the ship choice. I know I dont want a science vessel but thats about it. Again, thanks.
It's best not to make your sole rear weapon a torpedo or mine--you want to have at least one beam array or turret in back to keep enemies from chasing your tail, unless you are trying for a total torpedo boat. Photon or Quantum torpedoes deal only 10% damage against shields, and only deal full damage when they strike an unshielded quadrant of an enemy target, so you will need to use energy weapons to take down their shields before firing the torpedoes.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 9
09-14-2012, 02:47 AM
Thanks all, I am level 9 now and about to be promoted. How do I upgrade my weapons? Based on your help I think I will go for the cruiser line. I want to stay on one line rather than swap about different ships. I really an enjoying this game, might even consider going gold. Again, appreciate the advice.
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# 10
09-14-2012, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by phil3822 View Post
Thanks all, I am level 9 now and about to be promoted. How do I upgrade my weapons? Based on your help I think I will go for the cruiser line. I want to stay on one line rather than swap about different ships. I really an enjoying this game, might even consider going gold. Again, appreciate the advice.
Nearly all content scales to your level. So as soon as you get promoted, missions and the enemies in them will move up with you and you'll start seeing better rewards and drops.

You can also replay episodes through the journal for higher versions of their rewards. Coverage can be spotty, but checking the rewards on all your replayable missions can be a good shopping cart to at least upgrade some key weapons.
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