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# 11
09-14-2012, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by molikor View Post
I kind of agree in part with the original post, but with better guidelines. For example:

Only alts in the same fleet together should able to pool their FM. This way no fleets get exploited.
As it stands currently with dilithium being account wide you can trade dilithium between characters as would the fleet marks if this was supported.

I would like some clarification on how fleets would be exploited, any criticisms are welcomed, any additions to pros and cons would be helpful as well
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
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As a Fleet leader with over 495 players, alts are good and bad, with such a large fleet I don't have the room to allow more then one alt in the fleet and to be honest we need the room for fully active people looking to help build a star base and get the rewards of a strong fleet. As a Lifer my self I have more toon slots then ftpers but not all can be in the fleet, but I use them for stfs fleet events but there hard earn FM's just sit there, I earned them on one toon that I play I should be able to add them to a account pool so my main can help build the base, My Fleet Icarus Elite is just days away from finishing Military Tier 4, the needed amount of FM's is high and if I play a toon why should I not be able to add them to a account pool we can do that with EC, so it should be same for FM's I earn then like I do EC.

As fleets begin to get to tier 3 and 4 I believe you will see more calls for this, If I was in charge I would back this as a gold ability would drive up paid members, but beside the point of profit its a fair and simple thing to do, I'm the Fleet Leader of Icarus Elite a level 12 fleet, soon to be tier 4 star base so I fully support the OP'ers view as it would help the tiny fleets get going again and help the large fleets fill projects fasts from a main, If I have 1,200 FM over 4 toons but only 2 can be in the fleet do to 500 max I should not be stopped donating the other half of the FM's as I earned them.

I can see were some would see it as unfair but same was said about shard bank and ec and that system works very well, so I belive it could be made possible and make some money for the game.
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# 13
09-14-2012, 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rreuben View Post
As a Fleet leader with over 495 players, alts are good and bad, with such a large fleet I don't have the room to allow more then one alt in the fleet and to be honest we need the room for fully active people looking to help build a star base and get the rewards of a strong fleet. As a Lifer my self I have more toon slots then ftpers but not all can be in the fleet, but I use them for stfs fleet events but there hard earn FM's just sit there, I earned them on one toon that I play I should be able to add them to a account pool so my main can help build the base, My Fleet Icarus Elite is just days away from finishing Military Tier 4, the needed amount of FM's is high and if I play a toon why should I not be able to add them to a account pool we can do that with EC, so it should be same for FM's I earn then like I do EC.

As fleets begin to get to tier 3 and 4 I believe you will see more calls for this, If I was in charge I would back this as a gold ability would drive up paid members, but beside the point of profit its a fair and simple thing to do, I'm the Fleet Leader of Icarus Elite a level 12 fleet, soon to be tier 4 star base so I fully support the OP'ers view as it would help the tiny fleets get going again and help the large fleets fill projects fasts from a main, If I have 1,200 FM over 4 toons but only 2 can be in the fleet do to 500 max I should not be stopped donating the other half of the FM's as I earned them.

I can see were some would see it as unfair but same was said about shard bank and ec and that system works very well, so I belive it could be made possible and make some money for the game.
Well said
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# 14
09-14-2012, 08:28 PM
Agreed.

This would be a huge benefit for all.
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# 15
09-15-2012, 08:06 AM
It may happen if the fleetmarks for cxp and for foundry mission are removed. Otherwise it's just a promise for many abuses. But if it happens in this case then why wouldn't you just play your fleet actions with the same character?

So I'm guessing you're only asking for this to abuse the foundry/doff system.

If you want more fleetmarks, just play the game?

Last edited by diogene0; 09-15-2012 at 08:09 AM.
Ensign
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# 16
09-17-2012, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sheppardus View Post
Won't happen, if you want to use your alts to donate to your fleet why don't you just invite them to your fleet and leave them there?

your benefits.
1 less grind... How will this be, you'll still have to run the same amount of fleet events to get the marks, unless you are solely wanting to do this to use your alts commendation xp to grind to fleet marks and give to your main to get a huge fleet credit tally on one account only.

2. smaller fleets won't need to save roster space in their fleet as they are *smaller fleets* if your fleet disallows you to use your alts in the fleet surely they are just cutting off a source of donations and limiting how much time you play as a fleet

3. adding more dailies would just be more grinding with your alts to get the fleet marks, which is is in contrast to benefit #1

Most people who have Klingon alts would rather be in klingon fleets to get a klingon starbase done, and prob just as many wouldn't want to grind their klingon to benefit the federation
I wouldn't mind... Would make things easier.
Captain
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# 17
09-17-2012, 06:40 AM
some of the currencys in this game are already tradeable between toons of the same account. EC, refined Dilithium...

it's really time to make lobi, EDC (all types), GPL, fleet credits and fleet marks bound to account...maybe the complete asset window should be account wide.
Go pro or go home
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# 18
09-19-2012, 05:06 PM
Anyone else have any criticisms towards this on how this would be exploited? Or just general cons?
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# 19
09-19-2012, 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
It may happen if the fleetmarks for cxp and for foundry mission are removed. Otherwise it's just a promise for many abuses. But if it happens in this case then why wouldn't you just play your fleet actions with the same character?

So I'm guessing you're only asking for this to abuse the foundry/doff system.
How would that be an abuse?

I would certainly hope that the other means of gaining fleet marks wouldn't go away, since the ways of earning fleet marks need more variety, not less.
Rihannsu
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# 20
09-19-2012, 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmerman1979 View Post
I would like some clarification on how fleets would be exploited, any criticisms are welcomed, any additions to pros and cons would be helpful as well
Trading Dilithium within Fleet Bank?

Simply with Gold Farmers, as long Dilithium cannot be traded outside account (and that requires some trickery) its nearly impossible to sell Dilithium to anyone (there is a way involving DOFFs but as impracticable for Gold Sellers) but if you could trade Dilithium with the Fleet it would work like this.

Leave Fleet.
Join Gold Farmer Fleet.
Use chat to verify identity and transaction.
Remove the Dilithium from the bank.
Leave Fleet.
Rejoin your Fleet.

And if Dilitium is traded it means Zen is traded, this would put PWE in a rather precarious situation since it would remove their control over pricing meaning the only solution would be ... the end of buying Zen using Dilithium.
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