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I browsed the KDF Fleet ship roster and I kind of had to wipe my eyes to see if I was seeing correctly .

As far as I can determine , the KDF have one ship with 5 Tac consoles (the Tac. Bortas) .
I could have sworn that they'd have at least one Fleet BOP and one Fleet Raptor that would of had that configuration , as the Feds have the Fleet Defiant and the Fleet Pormetheus Advance Escort with 5 Tac consoles .

What happened to the KDF being all bout the firepower ?
Why are the Feds getting this kind of ... dare I say preferential treatment ?
I mean this is the equivalent of discovering only one Fed Fleet cruiser with 5 Eng slots .

I can imagine them adding 5 Tac consoles to the Fleet Guramba down the road , but really , one if not two of the actual canon ships should have this added firepower as well (as the Bortas can't even make use of it in an optimal fashion) -- not like an escort can .

Your thoughts ?

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# 2
09-22-2012, 10:55 PM
In theory, I don't think consoles are supposed to be more powerful than one another.

But I think a Fleet B'Rel or Fleet versions of the stock T5 ships would be appreciated.
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# 3
09-22-2012, 11:38 PM
KDF fleet cruisers are great. EVerything else, they get shafted in, in comparaison to the fed ones.

Considering that fed ships in general are better already...


Not to mention that there are NO kdf fleet ships for less that 4 modules...

Yeah, shafted
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# 4
09-23-2012, 12:25 AM
they also have not as much ships as fed so not more ships with 5th console. its logical isnt it?
What ? Calaway.
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09-23-2012, 12:43 AM
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I could have sworn that they'd have at least one Fleet BOP and one Fleet Raptor that would of had that configuration , as the Feds have the Fleet Defiant and the Fleet Pormetheus Advance Escort with 5 Tac consoles .
Wait...the fleet Advanced Escort has 5 tac consoles? I thought it gained a sci or engineering console. (And I did look it up, I was honestly surprised, since I'd forgotten, and it does)

I will say though, yeah, KDF did get the shaft pretty much in terms of fleet ships. No discounted ships, and three ships with 5 consoles in anything (bug doesn't count), two of the Bortasqu' varients, and the fleet Negh'var.

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09-23-2012, 12:54 AM
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they also have not as much ships as fed so not more ships with 5th console. its logical isnt it?
If you consider "no more" to mean "one" then yes.
And in case of the fleet ships that number drops to "none" (I know that's not an actual number).

It's actually pretty strange that the faction that practically has only warships doesn't get such a ship.
Instead there's that BoP with only 9 consoles and the same amount of hull as a Runabout.
*looks around*
Has anybody figured out what that thing is supposed to be good at yet?
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# 7
09-23-2012, 12:57 AM
While it's true that Klingons got shafted with Fleet ships...........except one. The Fleet Vor'cha is pretty much a must buy.

Many of us are calling her the "Heavy" Escort or the Battle Escort since she pretty much is a powerhouse that dishes it out and takes it as well. She actually gives Raptors a run for their money.
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# 8
09-23-2012, 01:01 AM
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If you consider "no more" to mean "one" then yes.
And in case of the fleet ships that number drops to "none" (I know that's not an actual number).

It's actually pretty strange that the faction that practically has only warships doesn't get such a ship.
Instead there's that BoP with only 9 consoles and the same amount of hull as a Runabout.
*looks around*
Has anybody figured out what that thing is supposed to be good at yet?
I can't say I have, but it's up there with the Fed's Aquarius destroyer - I suspect that the one you're referring to is the counterpart of the BoP that comes in the Bortas as a launchable craft yeah?

I believe with the aquarius it was put in due to high layer demand, I suspect the Klingon Equivalent was put in for equality (!)
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09-23-2012, 01:06 AM
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I can't say I have, but it's up there with the Fed's Aquarius destroyer - I suspect that the one you're referring to is the counterpart of the BoP that comes in the Bortas as a launchable craft yeah?

I believe with the aquarius it was put in due to high layer demand, I suspect the Klingon Equivalent was put in for equality (!)
I actually don't refer to the Hoh'Sus *gesundheit* which would be the counterpart to the Aquarius.

http://www.stowiki.org/Fleet_Hoh%27SuS_Bird-of-Prey

The Hoh'SuS actually makes kinda sense.
Even though I find it aestetically unappealing it's basically a BoP with a greater TAC focus.

I mean this:

http://www.stowiki.org/Fleet_Ning%27...-Prey_Retrofit

and while it does have a potentially powerful BO setup, it does have drawbacks that make me shy away from it and wonder what it's supposed to be good at.
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# 10
09-23-2012, 01:20 AM
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I actually don't refer to the Hoh'Sus *gesundheit* which would be the counterpart to the Aquarius.

http://www.stowiki.org/Fleet_Hoh%27SuS_Bird-of-Prey

The Hoh'SuS actually makes kinda sense.
Even though I find it aestetically unappealing it's basically a BoP with a greater TAC focus.

I mean this:

http://www.stowiki.org/Fleet_Ning%27...-Prey_Retrofit

and while it does have a potentially powerful BO setup, it does have drawbacks that make me shy away from it and wonder what it's supposed to be good at.
Ah my KDF n00bness lets me down. I rarely play my KDF characters so I'm going to go hide in the corner.
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