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Rihannsu
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# 31
09-26-2012, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
Yes. I can see how the KDF Fleet Escorts and Fleet BOP are grossly overpowered Goliaths that can withstand anything....
Yes because the Aquarius and the Fleet Escort have Battlecloak ... oh, wait ...

And since you want to play this game ...

Flt. Escort Retrofit - Hull 30,360 ; Shield Modifier 0.77
Flt Qin - Hull 36,300 ; Shield Modifier 0.92
Flt Hoh'SuS - Hull 24,750 ; Shield Modifier 0.88

Stop being a BAWWWW bunny, the KDF have its own broken ships (like the Flt. Ning'tao) but none are as bad as the LOLarius that have.

Hull 26,400
Shield Modifier 0.72

And that is the FLEET version mind you, if you are going to bring up the Ning'tao have worst hull ... yes, but it also have all Universals, turn rate 22 and Battlecloak.
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# 32
09-26-2012, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by f2pdrakron View Post
Yes because the Aquarius and the Fleet Escort have Battlecloak ... oh, wait ...

And since you want to play this game ...

Flt. Escort Retrofit - Hull 30,360 ; Shield Modifier 0.77
Flt Qin - Hull 36,300 ; Shield Modifier 0.92
Flt Hoh'SuS - Hull 24,750 ; Shield Modifier 0.88

Stop being a BAWWWW bunny, the KDF have its own broken ships (like the Flt. Ning'tao) but none are as bad as the LOLarius that have.

Hull 26,400
Shield Modifier 0.72

And that is the FLEET version mind you, if you are going to bring up the Ning'tao have worst hull ... yes, but it also have all Universals, turn rate 22 and Battlecloak.
I'm curious? Why do people always feel the need to jibe, insult and make fun of people on public forums? I never really get it. Did you lack attention as a child? It's like making a fool of yourself in-front of a passing stranger. It's only yourself that comes off looking like at idiot.

Mind posting the FED Fleet escorts as well now and please also include the weapons comparison and consoles slots?

Perhaps you are also aware of the fact that the Qin is not at all popular due to its known pivot-point problem.

PS. Both the Aquarius or the Hoh'SuS should not even be featured as Fleet ships IMHO.

My point is the Feds have the Fleet Defiant and a host of awesome Escorts while the KDF get little in comparison in that department honestly?

Most of the KDF played ships don't even have fleet versions for that matter that count.

Last edited by drkfrontiers; 09-26-2012 at 01:42 PM.
Rihannsu
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# 33
09-26-2012, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
I'm curious? Why do people always feel the need to jibe, insult and make fun of people on public forums?
They posted enough to realize that is the only way to post if you want a reply?

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Mind posting the FED Fleet escorts as well now and please also include the weapons comparison and consoles slots?
You are comparing the Escort-class with KDF raptors and raiders and if I post the Fleet Defiant it loses out anyway.

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Perhaps you are also aware of the fact that the Qin is not at all popular due to its known pivot-point problem.
Qin might not be popular but its the better shielded and armored raptor with a tactical layout.

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PS. Both the Aquarius or the Hoh'SuS should not even be featured as Fleet ships IMHO.
Of course not, the Aquarius is the Federation poor man BoP that fails at even that since it cannot cloak, I cannot understand why they bothered making it a Fleet ship and just not thrown it as a Zen-Shop T3 ship.

The Hoh'SuS however have more armor that the B'rel (same shield modifier) so it can take more abuse in exchange for lacking that "enhanced" Battlecloak, the stinker is the Ning'tao that have less hull that the T4 BoP.

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My point is the Feds have the Fleet Defiant and a host of awesome Escorts while the KDF get little in comparison in that department honestly?
Does not excuse on the fact you are attacking the fact they are fixing two ... well one ship by raising its turn rate.

Argue about the Qin and the Hoh'SuS problems, not "Feds have better ships so dont fix the other Fed ships".

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Most of the KDF played ships don't even have fleet versions for that matter that count.
Again, this is not a argument about the Escort-class being "fine" and not needing adjustments.
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# 34
09-26-2012, 04:43 PM
There is also a Tetty Beam Bank MK XII green that feels like it's a blue MK IX ground armeowr. :p

By the way, while you're at uniforms, could you eventually fix the borderline clipping issues on the standard TNG series uniform (pre-order version) female variant? The Season 1 TNG uniform loox purrfect now, and DS9 movie as well as DS9 series loox good as well. Just TNG series is bad.
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# 35
09-26-2012, 05:02 PM
So what its the point in getting the Aquarius? is T4 and cost 2 k zen. Its special because its goes in the back of the Ody? or you can change from the Odyssey to the Aquarius like a shuttle?
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# 36
09-26-2012, 07:34 PM
another new patch (but no notes?)

up to .18 now
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# 37
09-26-2012, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by toiva View Post
Not saying escorts are underpowered or something, but I'm liking flying cruisers much more. Also, I perform better in them than I do in other ship types. Therefore I see no reason to consider them "disadvantaged and useless". Also, there's loads of them (on FED side, anyway). So I see no specific reason for the devs to focus on them.
Like you, i like to fly Cruiser more too. But they need so long to turn, even giving them just a +2 degrees per second more would help a lot. At least it would help them (cruisers) more than it would help escorts (who have a extreme high turnrate anyway).


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# 38
09-26-2012, 10:36 PM
Both the Vulcan name and registry prefixes are most welcome. While the shows never offered a name prefix that I can recall, VSS is certainly consistent with most Trek novels depicting a Vulcan starship. To be further consistent in STO, the V.S. T'Pau from Task Force Hippocrates should be renamed VSS T'Pau.

NSP (National Shipping Program, maybe?) would, IMO, only be accurate for a Vulcan merchant ship registry. And would be welcome should such a ship join the Tuffli later in the game. But I don't think it makes sense to apply to, say, the D'Kyr science vessel.
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# 39
09-27-2012, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by zer0niusrex View Post
We will be bringing the Tribble server down for maintenance to apply a new update.
ST.20.20120909a.15


Systems:
  • Increased the turn rate of the Aquarius by 1.
  • Increased the Turn rate of the Escort, Escort Refit, Escort Retrofit and Fleet Escort Retrofit by 1.
WTF Systems?? Look @ FEd scorts, look at KDF scorts, look at BOP
The last thing that needs random buffs thrown aroudn is friggin Fed scorts.

Systems should be renamed, to randomly messing up numbers in an excell sheet, so we pawn moar hard in PvE.
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# 40
09-27-2012, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
What - and you are honestly going to tell me "with a straight-face" that the KDF ships are remotely balanced in comparison..............................
You mean how the KDF Fleet battle cruisers are completely superior to any of the Fed Fleet Cruisers?

Some ships made out really well in the fleet system, some ended up sucking.

The Aquarius is one of the ones that ended up sucking, badly.

Yet this terrible ship, getting a +1 turn rate was enough to prompt you to come into this thread with more "KDF unfairness" that we already have 2 to 3 sub-forums wholly dedicated to.


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Originally Posted by mrkollins View Post
So what its the point in getting the Aquarius? is T4 and cost 2 k zen. Its special because its goes in the back of the Ody? or you can change from the Odyssey to the Aquarius like a shuttle?
The only people who get this are either "noobs" who get suckered into it, or people who absolutely must have the Aquarius because they have the Ody.


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Originally Posted by havam View Post
WTF Systems?? Look @ FEd scorts, look at KDF scorts, look at BOP


Look at KDF Battle Cruisers, look at Fed Cruisers.


Poorly designed ships exist on both sides.

And just to nitpick, the KDF do not have Escorts. They have Raptors with built-in cloaking (and destroyers which are mostly well designed).

You can debate the merits of cloaking all you like, but they essential get something in return for any hull or shield reductions and the Pivot point issue isn't a systems team issue.


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