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# 11
09-30-2012, 03:15 PM
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crap , thought that was the place with the pics
this should be it http://www.foundation3d.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=12880

as for it being a science ship , every single interview with the devs about it has said ' science ship ' .. so im pretty sure its a given it will be
I listened to that priority one and I heard " I think its going to be a science ship and I think thats the way we are going to go. " Nothing really definitive, and if it is going to be a science ship with cannons...I'm worried that it would only have 2 tac consoles.
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09-30-2012, 03:24 PM
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I listened to that priority one and I heard " I think its going to be a science ship and I think thats the way we are going to go. " Nothing really definitive, and if it is going to be a science ship with cannons...I'm worried that it would only have 2 tac consoles.
That is why people are asking for the Kar'Fi layout, you get 3/2/4 console slot layout and also a Lt Cmdr Tactical, also with 4/3 you dont exactly are losing much on weapon slots if you keep cannons.

Besides I am more worried about turn rate and inertia that tactical consoles, what is the point of having dual cannons if you cannot even fire then.
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09-30-2012, 03:36 PM
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That is why people are asking for the Kar'Fi layout, you get 3/2/4 console slot layout and also a Lt Cmdr Tactical, also with 4/3 you dont exactly are losing much on weapon slots if you keep cannons.

Besides I am more worried about turn rate and inertia that tactical consoles, what is the point of having dual cannons if you cannot even fire then.
Yeah but the Kar'fi isn't much more maneuverable than the dreadnought, the only difference is 1 point of turn rate. I don't know if I can see the Vesta being much faster than the Sovereign.

Even if it will be a science ship its still a big science ship so I can't see it having a turn rate into the double digits.

How about a science ship with a hanger bay? Hey can't blame me for trying...I just love my pets...have since my first mmo!
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# 14
09-30-2012, 03:39 PM
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Yeah but the Kar'fi isn't much more maneuverable than the dreadnought, the only difference is 1 point of turn rate. I don't know if I can see the Vesta being much faster than the Sovereign.

Even if it will be a science ship its still a big science ship so I can't see it having a turn rate into the double digits.

How about a science ship with a hanger bay? Hey can't blame me for trying...I just love my pets...have since my first mmo!
thats what the atrox is
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# 15
09-30-2012, 03:51 PM
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thats what the atrox is
The atrox has two bays...the Vesta could have one bay, a better turn rate and maybe sensor analysis but no subsystem targeting, or visa versa?

Sensor analysis would make more sense I suppose, since if you want cannons you can't use subsystem targeting. Even with SA it wouldn't have the punch of the Armitage.

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09-30-2012, 03:54 PM
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Yeah but the Kar'fi isn't much more maneuverable than the dreadnought, the only difference is 1 point of turn rate.
Turn rate 7 puts it on Sovereign turning, its not hideous like the Atrox or terrible like the Odyssey/Galaxy turning.

Also there is inertia rating, there are a lot of questions on where they will be going with this and their BO layout that will have to reflect its Hull and Shield ratings.

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I don't know if I can see the Vesta being much faster than the Sovereign.
Should be, its was testbed of the Slipstream technology and as it certainly taken its design from the Sovereign and Excelsior class does not mean its going to operate exactly as then, also the Excelsior have a turn rate of 8.

Maneuverability matters on a science ship, the Nebula have a turn rate of 8, I cannot see this being much lower then that.

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Even if it will be a science ship its still a big science ship so I can't see it having a turn rate into the double digits.
The Vor'cha have turn rate 7, the Negh'Var have 9, oth are Battlecruisers.
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# 17
09-30-2012, 04:10 PM
Not saying it will be a 6 like the gal-x, but lets face it pretty much any non escort that can equip dual cannons except for the battlecruisers doesn't have a phenomenal turn rate...the corsair being the best with a turn of 8.
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# 18
09-30-2012, 04:12 PM
Im sorry , but i really have to disagree , theres simply no way the vesta will be a carrier . the only reason the armitage is , is because the original designer created the akira class to be a carrier
Rademaker didnt design the vesta as a carrier , ergo it wont be one

As for speed , take the destiny books with a pinch of salt , but at maximum warp the aventine outruns the enterprise-E even without using its slipstream drive
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# 19
09-30-2012, 04:27 PM
The speed part I screwed up on, since well speed doesn't mean a whole lot in STO. I meant to say turning but had stuff on my mind and completely miss typed.

Speed don't really mean much when you can pump any ship up to warp 30 lol.
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# 20
09-30-2012, 04:30 PM
well , its turn rate cant be worse than the sovereigns , since the two ships are almost the same in terms of length and mass
being the more advanced ship , id say its turn rate ' may ' be a notch higher, but have to wait till november to know for sure
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