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# 71
09-19-2012, 06:45 PM
The damage buff to Transphasic Torpedos from the Breen set is not very large, and not commiserate with the loss in durability of not having 3-Borg + MACO shields.

Pointedly, while two transphasic high-yield volleys may do a combined more damage than one quantum HY volley, the time between makes it so that the target can quite easily out heal the damage. The best way to think of Transphasics is as a hull-hitting pressure weapon. If the enemy team has a large amount of cross-hull healing available, then your damage should amount to very little. If they are starved for hull heals, you have a reasonable chance of wearing them down, if your team is built around shield-bypassing attacks.
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# 72
09-19-2012, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by age03 View Post
Yes I did watch the end of Voyager and who knows if those weren't future transphasiscs.We are talking game not the show.
Janeway brought those torpedoes from 2404. This is 2409.

So, hull heals before any more damage, some say? These aren't just for PvP
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# 73
09-20-2012, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cbagz View Post
Has anyone tested Transphasic Torpedos with the http://www.stowiki.org/Breen_Absolute_Zero , you dont need the hole set.
That?s pretty much what I fly with. Breen set, mine beta/alpha with torpedo spread and the universal console that boosts torpedoes and mines by 10%. Add in attack pattern beta to lower target kinetic resistance and you have a pretty deadly setup.
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# 74
09-22-2012, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by voporak View Post
I edited to my chart up above quanum bleedthrough and to-the-hull damage for both. Now, on the face of it you say, "Transphasics do more to the hull through shields, leading to better damage over time." That is true, but consider that is going thorugh the shields. And if it's always going to the shields that means you haven't taken down their shields. So the other person can just be popping hull repairs and negate the effects of the extra penetration. So ideally you should be taking down their shields, and once you do that transphasic bleedthrough doesn't matter, and it ends up being the weakest torpedo. However, if you use quantum then when you take down their shields and pop a quantum to the hull, it makes up for all the lost bleedthrough. And using THY with quantum to the hull creates a staggering amount of damage. So really my point is if you aren't taking down their shields fast transphasics might be a better choice. But then, the other person can just use a hull repair. And if you are getting their shields (which I really hope you are) then quantums are the way to go because they cause wreckage to the exposed hull.

EDIT: Be gald we're debating this like normal people and not rage trolling on each other.
Which actually brings us back to what the OP originally said as in the original post it was made clear that the OP has difficulty stripping shields and timing torps. SO... to sum up... if one is skilled (as you are) at stripping shields and timing torps then Quantum is the way to go... BUT if one is NOT so good at stripping shields quickly or timing their torp launches then Transphasics could be a viable option...

Sounds like the two of you have arrived at a PoTAYto/PoTAHto kinda place
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# 75
10-02-2012, 12:25 AM
Hey, so I've decided to use Active Duty DOFFs, specifically, Projectile Weapons Officers, and I've switched from Rapid Reload to Fleet Transphasics. Works like a charm.
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# 76
10-02-2012, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pottsey5g View Post
I do not see how. By the time the Quantum?s can fire with shields down Transphasics have already done more than enough damage to outpace Quantums. Normally Transphasics end up killing the target well before Quantum?s.

What I mean is 1 Transphasics salvo on shields and 1 salvo on hull without shields does more damage than a timed Quantum salvo on hull.

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# 77
10-11-2012, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mercenary4hire View Post
This is Star Trek! Photons and Phasers FTW!
Photons do have a nice DPS, but the problem is the shields that recharge.
Defiant and Enterprise-E had quantums.
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# 78
10-11-2012, 07:14 PM
My fleet tested transphasic torpedoes a week
Ago I'n privite pvp

We saw no 40% shield penetration at all
As far as I can tell it's broken

Repeated hi yield 2 and 3 salvos did no noticeable
Hull Damage to the defiant escort target

After 2 minutes of firing at him sitting still
With +30% Acc torps we gave up

Privite pvp mode may be bugged but that's where
We tested it at
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Saphire.. Science.....Ko'el Rom Kdf Tac
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# 79
10-11-2012, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jellico1 View Post
My fleet tested transphasic torpedoes a week
Ago I'n privite pvp

We saw no 40% shield penetration at all
As far as I can tell it's broken

Repeated hi yield 2 and 3 salvos did no noticeable
Hull Damage to the defiant escort target

After 2 minutes of firing at him sitting still
With +30% Acc torps we gave up

Privite pvp mode may be bugged but that's where
We tested it at
Try with, say, photon torpedoes. See the difference there.
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# 80
10-11-2012, 11:07 PM
Photon torpedoes are what I use

We were trying to find something better for pvp
So we tested the transphasics out. Hoping
That using them along with directed energy
Modulation 3 and polaron beam weapons
Would be a great combination

All three failed our tests

The torpedoes didn't breach shields at 40%
of strength
Directed energy modulation didn't work

No power drain from poloran beam weapons
Was detected

3 broken weapons was our results

Dirsuptor proc on polarized Disruptors did work
But no power drain from the poloran proc was
Detected
Tetyron proc worked
Phaser proc worked

That's all we tested so far now we have new
Patches so who knows what works or don't work
Now
Jellico....Engineer.....Stargazer KDF Tac
Saphire.. Science.....Ko'el Rom Kdf Tac
Leva........Tactical.....Mailu KDF Sci

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