There was lots of extra fees/consultations - of course lawyers -etc with the designer. This is a non-cannon ship designed by a new person being paid to put it into books - owning the design rights to the ship.

Are you suggesting he would let Cryptic use it in game for free? That would be pretty stupid of him.

Could I please see your numbers?

Since you do the exact same thing now you did then...what has changed?
NOTHING.

Since you have inside information on Cryptic sales, can you tell me how many players are in game? how many Fleet are there in game? how many keys players got in the game? and exactly how many Regent's were sold?

I don't have numbers - but i play the game 6 hrs a day every day - all over the map - and i don't see the regent more than a couple times in the whole day.

I see the Oddy everywhere, I see the Armitage a lot, I see other FED ships a lot but almost no regents - I would call that a bomb. I don't think i am the only player that does not see the Regent very often.

And Talking about the 2 ships this one is way different - first i said that i was going over the top on the Regent which was just A REFIT of the Sov

The VESTA is the first completely new Starfleet C-Store starship to the Game since the Oddy - off course it needs to 1 up the bar.

Considering it was the second most common C-store cruiser I've seen in PVE queues since it released (most common if you don't count the Odysseys as a single ship) I think it's safe to guess where your inside information comes from.

If Regent sales were nonexistent, then Armitage sales were mediocre at best.

I sure hope the Vesta is a cruiser and not a science ship. If it does end up being a science ship, I won't be buying.

So do you right click, and look at everyone's bio when you pass every Sovereign you see in space to see if it's a Refit...or do you just assume everyone who got the ship has it on default and would not change it's look??

It's going to be a sci ship, there has not been a SCI ship in the C store since the Bellerophon, and god knows how many cruisers we have already.

I don't PvE a lot any more I just fly around the stars doing doff missions - yesterday during Infected bonus day i did 20 infecteds arcoss 6 toons and saw the Regent 1 time - so maybe it was their day off.

Bottom line is this - if Cryptic want to match sales of the oddy - which as their last big investment in a ship they will HAVE to do what they did with the Oddy which was 1 up every other ship in the c-store

So by this same logic if they want the VESTA to be as successful or better than the Oddy they will have to move the bar up 1 notch - everyone will have to get the Vesta as most people felt they had to get the Oddy.

That's the way every company does things in America with the next generation of product.

I actually did that quite often in the month after the release given my post about it just to see if I was right or not. But I have not bothered in over a month.