Originally Posted by hurleybird

If only all of these 'awesome' Klingon players could for the life of them put together a half decent premade. Yeah, I went there.

Originally Posted by orondis

There are a number of reasons which cause Fed pugs to suck so bad.

1 - The majority of players are fans of the show and it's highley likely the cruiser is their fave type of ship. So they fly it. The problem is that in STO, Fed cruisers suck at DPS compared to escorts and you'll sometimes need more then one escort to crack even an escorts shields. Cruisers? Ha, not a chance.

2 - Tanking in PvE is ridiculously easy, even on elite difficulty. As such new players will rarely ever develop the tanking/healing that is required in PvP. Some don't even know what tac team does, which is like the must have tanking skill for PvP.

3 - Similar to point 2, NPCs generally don't tank, meaning poor unoptimized builds will have little trouble handling them. Heck even a VA in a T2 cruiser can take out VA NPCs, with no buffs.

4 - Similar to point 1, KDF players will generally pick their fave ship from the show which is mostly the Bird of Prey or the Vorcha. So on one side you've got people flying badly setup non-damage "tanks" that need a number of buffs to make work, while on the otherside you got battle cloakable alpha striking ships anyone with half a brain can fly. It's tickle beam arrays vs death dealing dual heavy cannons. In the end this results in inoffensive sitting duck targets that new players can blow up with ease.

5 - Point 4 pretty much means that average Fed pugs instantly have their backs against the wall when klinks decloak. Their thinking is "omg omg omg I'm gonna blow up" saving their meager heals for themselves (or are too focused on trying to do damage with their poor setups). Meanwhile the average klink pug has very little to worry about and as such they're calm and have plenty of heals to spare.

While the KDF does have overall better pugs then fed side, this isn't the only reason they win so much. A large portion is that the KDF simply matches peoples expectations when it comes to Star Trek. Certainly there are a lot of bad klink pugs out there, it's just the ship they're flying matches their focus.

Originally Posted by hurleybird

If only all of these 'awesome' Klingon players could for the life of them put together a half decent premade. Yeah, I went there.

Originally Posted by hurleybird

If only all of these 'awesome' Klingon players could for the life of them put together a half decent premade. Yeah, I went there.

Originally Posted by bobtheyak

KDF is far outclassed in premade matches

Originally Posted by skurf

Do you think that has more to do with the players or the ships? For instance, if the same players theoretically faced off against themselves in a 5v5 premade Fed vs. KDF, which side would win (no lockbox ships)?

Originally Posted by skurf

What does min maxer mean?

Originally Posted by skurf

Do you think that has more to do with the players or the ships? For instance, if the same players theoretically faced off against themselves in a 5v5 premade Fed vs. KDF, which side would win (no lockbox ships)?

Originally Posted by skurf

What does min maxer mean?

Originally Posted by snoge00f

Klingons need to make QEW Part 2 to put back order into PvP again.