Rihannsu
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 46
# 21
10-09-2012, 12:31 PM
959 days on STO so far, LTS.
Overjoyed that I'm getting the vet ship earlier than I expected.
Such delicious tears here.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 335
# 22
10-09-2012, 12:31 PM
All fail Cryptic, again you fail to deliver what you promised.

This ship is no longer a 1000 day vet reward it is an LTS reward and a damn late one at that. So where is our 1000 day vet reward? Come on Cryptic cough up.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 123
# 23
10-09-2012, 12:32 PM
This is rather disappointing. Was thinking about coming back to this game full-time and actually finishing a few of my Foundry missions that I had been developing but now ... I dunno. What's the point?
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 38
# 24
10-09-2012, 12:34 PM
Cryptic, while the new ships look very interesting and may even be a plausible replacement for my old faithful Advanced Escort, I'm afraid that when it comes to this strategy, I have to disagree in the strongest possible manner, and I shall explain why.

To put it simply, the Vet rewards are powerful messages showcasing our commitment to the game, to reach 1000 days is a feat unto itself, and adding a ship for that milestone makes it a highly prized vessel with a huge amount of respect behind it. In adding this and every other vet reward to anyone who gets a lifetime subscription, no matter how many days (or lack thereof, as the case is) they have subscribed, you do two detrimental things to your game.

Firstly, you de-value all of the vet rewards, making them less desireable and less of an incentive to keep playing. This will impact the staying power of your game if someone can pay money to skip the queue.

Secondly, you alienate your subscribers, which will represent a substantial amount (if not the rampant majority) of your playerbase. I would feel entirely invalidated as a consumer if everything I stayed for (especialy during those times I felt as though I should just leave, of which there have been many) was suddenly at the fingertips of anyone with a sack of money to dump at your feet. Taking what I worked to get and then just giving it to the richer guy makes me feel like a second-class consumer, and I can guarantee I will not be the only one.

Besides, my subscription now equals to more than a lifetime subscription in the long run, so in technical terms, you are giving the easy route to the guy who is going to pay less.

Again Cryptic, I implore you to turn this around, the staying power of your game -WILL- be affected, possibly permanently, and some of your recent decisions have already been met with widespread criticism, you cannot afford to keep making bad decisions.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 688
# 25
10-09-2012, 12:35 PM
Look, I get it, but it's still kind of a **** move.

This doesn't really affect me directly, as I would've gotten this thing within the next two or three days anyway, and my main computer picked last night to completely fry (on a netbook now), meaning I'll probably not be in game for a while, but it's the message sent along with it. In one fell swoop you've soundly beaten the EVE monocle, and shown that those who have actually been with you since day one really mean absolutely nothing to you. Veteran awards were the industry standard method for showing some appreciation, and you've destroyed yours.

So congratulations, that's once more one less line in the sand for you to worry about.
Reave
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 22
# 26
10-09-2012, 12:35 PM
this is probably the biggest bone headed idea anyone has had . what is wrong with you people , do you care anything about the player base ? The ones that have probably paid most of your salaries 10 times over in the last 3 years , do you not care that our loyalty to you is worth this .. A knife in the back . is that you really think of us ?

This is SWG all over again!!
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,789
# 27
10-09-2012, 12:36 PM
All Vet Rewards instantly for an LTS?

<3

I thought I'd have to wait another 200-some days for a change to call the Chimera ugly in-game while flying it, but this.... this has made my day.

Also, finally, a differentiation between subbers and LTS that's not just a blue forum name.

That said, it's probably gonna tick off some long-time subbers who were waiting to get their hands on those ships before even some LTSs, but that's just a false sense of entitlement talking.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 46
# 28
10-09-2012, 12:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jexsamx View Post
All Vet Rewards instantly for an LTS?

<3

I thought I'd have to wait another 200-some days for a change to call the Chimera ugly in-game while flying it, but this.... this has made my day.

Also, finally, a differentiation between subbers and LTS that's not just a blue forum name.

That said, it's probably gonna tick off some long-time subbers who were waiting to get their hands on those ships before even some LTSs, but that's just a false sense of entitlement talking.
<3 indeed. I expected to wait-I've already done so for 959 days, after all.
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1
# 29
10-09-2012, 12:39 PM
This saddens me greatly. I started with Closed Beta, moved to Open Beta and purchased my Lifetime subscription as soon as it was available. I have 8 days until the ship becomes available to me. I have put in a lot of time and effort into this game and now, someone who can fork out $200 dollars can get the same benefits as those of us who have put in the time to make this a great game. I feel that this is a greedy money grab by PW.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,160
# 30
10-09-2012, 12:40 PM
I think you guys are missing the point here. As a LTM you are going to be eligible for all the vet awards anyway, automatically, you could log off and log back in 3 years later and pick them all up without supporting the game at all after the initial investment. The people that pay subs are still going to have to wait the required time anyway, so they will have to support the game for each hundred days to pick up the next award. I'm at 641 days so have had many of the awards, I am also a LTM and I am pleased that new LTMs will see a huge packet of goodies included with their large one-off purchase. Hopefully it will encourage more to come off F2P or Subs and make a large initial investment into the game.

It also probably means the end of Vet awards past 1000 days because they will no longer be seen as vet awards but LTM awards. This will free up the team at Cryptic to work on other projects which can only be a good thing. I think those of you who don't like this are feeling a little ego deflation as now all LTMs will suddenly have all the same stuff as you even though they may have only started playing today. Me, I support this and wait to welcome all the new LTMs entering the game, they will have spent a lot and received a lot, they will be more likely to participate in this forum and in fleets, I see it as a win win everywhere, nice move Cryptic.

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