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# 1 Defiant Battle Cloak
10-10-2012, 06:15 AM
With the new 1000 day Vet ships the Klingons got now an escort with a battle cloak, I think it is time that also the Defiant get's a battle cloak. Otherwise the Federation is completly loosing out against the Klingons, that can mount on every ship Cannons, and 95% of their ships have a cloak, battle cloak or advanced battle cloak.
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# 2
10-10-2012, 06:28 AM
I agree, the Defiant NEEDS a battle cloak. The reason it didn't get one so far was because of balancing for both factions. To be honest, I doubt the Defiant getting a BC will be that much of a major issue. Considering most players in this game only play PvE, why not give that little ship what it deserves? Besides from the fact that in Trek any ship with a cloak could use it when ever... :-)

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# 3
10-10-2012, 06:30 AM
In other words: battlecloaks for everyone!
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# 4
10-10-2012, 06:41 AM
The Defiant not having a battlecloak makes no difference to me (I have the Defiant). Sure there have been moments when I wished I could just cloak to escape my impending doom, but eh. Having played with a KDF character and a BoP it's hardly the get out of jail free card some think of it.

Also I am reminded of how the Defiant handled its cloaking device in the actual show... and there were plenty of times when it would have been handy for her to cloak and get out of dodge, but it seemed particularly sensitive to battle damage. In 'Way of the Warrior' its cloak was knocked out of comission when Sisko beamed Dukat and the Detapa council off their stricken vessel. In 'Sacrifice of Angels' attrition and piled-up battle damage had 'fried' it when they could really have used it to escape a desperate melee. Other times when they've used the cloak tactically was for the 'alpha-strike-immediately-upon-decloak' thing which they did in 'The Die Is Cast' and 'Way of the Warrior'.

So really I don't have a problem with the Defiant not having battlecloak. It fits the canon better IMO.
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# 5
10-10-2012, 06:55 AM
i don't think the defiant needs battle cloak although it would be good but i really don't use it very much and since pvp is useless there's no real need. i am annoyed about the fact that the kdf do get a battle cloak on their 1000 day vet reward. personally i would rather have theres than the chimera. ours looks like crap and to add insult to injury the kdf still get a battle cloak with it. bit of a piss take. im not saying the feds necessarily need a cloak but balance things a little at least
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# 6
10-10-2012, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by misterde3 View Post
In other words: battlecloaks for everyone!
Not necessary, cruisers does not need a battle cloak because they have the survivability but I could see it for escorts, at least for some of them.
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# 7
10-10-2012, 07:04 AM
it may fit canon for you but its a problem in kerrat. lot of times, i get "alpha-strike"-shoot by a klingon (not destroying my ship) and then he cloaks. he is doing this over and over again (really happend not just once but quite often) so i cannot teach him a lesson. makes kerrat less funny for me.

okay lets say i dont have a problem with the cloak not being a battle cloak but then at least do not make it as a console for us but instead as in the ship implemented...
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# 8
10-10-2012, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bridgern View Post
Not necessary, cruisers does not need a battle cloak because they have the survivability but I could see it for escorts, at least for some of them.
The Defiant also has a lot more survivability than the BoP AND the highest agility of all the escorts of its tier.
And of we go by canon, Klingon cruisers should cloak just like BoPs.
Same should go for Raptors, the Defiant's counterpart of course.
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# 9
10-10-2012, 07:08 AM
I'll trade you One (1) Battle-Cloak for...say...a KDF Escort with Five (5) Tac Consoles.
Deal? Didn't think so. Quit whining and just enjoy what you have
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# 10
10-10-2012, 07:11 AM
A battle cloak might be a nice little perk to add to the fleet Defiant....
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