Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 358
# 51
10-10-2012, 09:29 AM
"rewards based on time subscribed, this was called "Veteran" rewards" Now anyone with some money paid can have it all now now!

So I was just saying I want it all now now! They already threw vets under the bus by letting people new to the game pay and get all the rewards now. So I was just taking it one more step.. Just give me the rewards now as well. Let me hit 1000 and make me a lifer.. No? I did not gamble like you all did? Well yea you are correct I did not. But ill tell you what Ill pay.... $75 more dollars cryptic.. No Ill pay $100 more and you give me life. But the $199 is the price! Yes that is true.. But money talks now in this game. Starbases I could see in Cstore before its over with. Amount of time you spend means nothing compared to $$$ you spend. So give me life... Give others Maco Stlyes in Cstore and t5 bases. Not so crazy if you compare what they did with giving all new lifers all the vet rewars no matter how long in game. MONEY TALKS!

I say this not because I want the ship lol. I got like 15 days left and still not sure ill use it. I fly the fleet retro defiant. I still cant see if the pros of the new one beats the loss of console. Plus no new bridge. Im a freak when it comes to stlye and things pretty and Im not sure I like the over sized deflector. "for me at least" I love seeing all typs of ships flying around. Just me flying it.. Im not sure
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 544
# 52
10-10-2012, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo View Post
Well, if you plan to be a subscriber in years to come, there is a cost-efficient way to do that. That shouldn't be news to you?
I think you missed the point I was making. The LTS was originally something that was sold late Beta and into like the first week or two of game release. That is where LTS should have ended and actually did for some time.

I have no issues with people buying the LTS. My issue has to do with Gold members that didn't have the LTS that were loyally paying their $15 a month who earn their vet rewards.

Yes I, as a game launch LTS didn't have to play 2.5 years straight and honestly didn't. Out of my 993 days, I'd say maybe 300 of those are me actually playing the game. So I could care less about new LTS players gaining the rewards that I get now. It's about the systematic nerf of those poor loyal Gold members.

Moving on to something I touched earlier. Being that the game is F2P, those F2P gamers should be earning days towards vet rewards, but they are not. Even if they only gain a day for every day they actually log into the game, they should be earning time served, but they don't..


Gold accounts at this point should just be removed. There isn't enough bonus for staying Gold now that LTS members automatically receive 1000 days.
You know Cryptic has Jumped the Proverbial Shark when they introduced Tractor Pulling to Star Trek Online!
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 53
10-10-2012, 09:51 AM
I have been paying a subscription for 674 Days, because I cannot afford to pay a one time LTS.

I must say I feel quite disappointed. I feel like I am paying for something I am not getting.
Lt. Commander
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# 54
10-10-2012, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gstamo01 View Post
Gold accounts at this point should just be removed. There isn't enough bonus for staying Gold now that LTS members automatically receive 1000 days.
With all due respect, nobody who has ever played a F2P account would ever say something so obviously ignorant. The value for Gold still exists, that's a fact.
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# 55
10-10-2012, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by echodarksided View Post
With all due respect, nobody who has ever played a F2P account would ever say something so obviously ignorant. The value for Gold still exists, that's a fact.
His point is that LTS is now the heavy favorite over gold subs. If you consider the value over time, you have to sub for three years before the investment pays back, whereas the rewards you instantly receive for becoming LTS repay your investment immediately. It would be silly to say that gold subs have an advantage over LTSers now.
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# 56
10-10-2012, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
I have been paying a subscription for 674 Days, because I cannot afford to pay a one time LTS.

I must say I feel quite disappointed. I feel like I am paying for something I am not getting.
I think what they should do is give gold subbers everything after the 400 or 500 day mark, at that point you've spent around the same as someone who purchased a lifetime sub.
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Survivor of Remus
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# 57
10-10-2012, 10:43 AM
They should turn any Gold sub that has recieved it's 1000 day vet reward into a Life Time Sub.
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# 58
10-10-2012, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by echodarksided View Post
With all due respect, nobody who has ever played a F2P account would ever say something so obviously ignorant. The value for Gold still exists, that's a fact.
There is 0 value to gold members now in almost all cases. When the game went f2p the only real value was vet rewards. If that has ended at 1000 then no value is left.. I pay 70 some dollars every 6 months. Do you have a clue how much zen I can get with my $77.94 6 month sub??

Well lets find out shall we!

Over 7700 zen!!
But wait as gold I get the "benfit" of 400 a month! Well lets times that by 6!
2400 zen!
Hmm... it seems I would get more zen for my money "just a little" if I dropped too F2P
But but I wont get the large back slots and toon slots! I think for the 7700 zen I can have now that I am saving that sub money will handle the cstore purchases.

I knew all of this when it went F2P I stuck around for only one reason. One kinda stupid reason. The vet rewards. The one thing that I can say I have but F2p and people that just started dont have. Something to show people that I am a vet that has stuck around.

I challenge you to tell me one thing beyond creating foundary missions that gold give me.. Dont tell me crap better logins over free. This game has plenty of login space. Most of my large fleet is ftp with no one in the last year telling me they had to wait for login. Get you head out of the sand. There is no reason anyone like me with the days I have should go life after 1000 or stay paid after 1000 days. Dare you to give me one other reason than to better the game. If they wanted me to stay paid or gave a damn about the old lifers. Then they would not have got rid of vet and gave us a reason to stay payed
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# 59
10-10-2012, 11:42 AM
sorry I get 500 points free a month not 400 so that adds to 3000 zen in 6 months compared to over 7700 if I take my sub and put the cash into zen
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# 60
10-10-2012, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by carcharodon1975 View Post
They should turn any Gold sub that has recieved it's 1000 day vet reward into a Life Time Sub.
I am not sure about this but wouldn't fight against it haha.

Cryptic really jsut needs to give Gold 100 day "players" some respect. This just shows you are either F2P or LTS... and Gold can just go and rot.
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I EARNED 1000 days...I didn't BUY it! New LTS=Death to Vet.System: 10/10/12 Never Forget
Something should be done for those who cared enough to have a 1000+ day sub.
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