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# 11
10-17-2012, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by grylak View Post
I'm only just collecting my borg set now (Got engines, 1 EDC away from getting the shield, still need the deflector), so don't know what's happened in those links provided. What exactly has happened?

Links are fine, they made the set useless...
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# 12
10-17-2012, 04:32 AM
Sorry for the thick sounding question but does this mean that the seemingly universally recommended combination of 3 peice borg set and MACO sheilds is no longer viable/worthwhile?

If so then great...I've just got all my main toons ships up to this level!
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# 13
10-17-2012, 04:38 AM
It is no longer a 4 part set that allows you to have the 3 part set bonus and still use any stronger shield like MACO at the same Time.
Now it is two 3 part sets.
So if you want the 3 piece set Bonus you have to use the Borg Regen shield which has a low capacity.

I know this annoys a lot of people, esspecially escort pilots who really lose out on tanking now.
But lets face it. Escorts are not really meant to be that tanky anyway.
Cruisers I am sure can compensate (esspecially since there seems to be a MK XII version of the Borg set now. Up till now it was only MK X?
And science captains have a lot of other sets to choose from...

Last edited by timelord79; 10-17-2012 at 04:45 AM.
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# 14
10-17-2012, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grylak View Post
I'm only just collecting my borg set now (Got engines, 1 EDC away from getting the shield, still need the deflector), so don't know what's happened in those links provided. What exactly has happened?
Ok, before season 7 the Borg set has 4 pieces:

2 pieces give you a bonus chance for hull repair which will give you up to 30% of your hull back.

3 pieces gives you a chance for a shield heal bonus which happens when your shields go below 20%.

4 pieces gives you a lame tractor beam.

Up until now, everyone has been using the borg engines, deflector, assimilated module (for the hull and shield healing set bonuses) and the MACO shield (which is the best shield in the game).

After season 7, they're removing the assimilated module as a set piece and making it a part of its own set. So, to get the 3rd set bonus shield heal I described above, you have to use the lame Borg shield.

Everyone is now QQing because of this.
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# 15
10-17-2012, 04:43 AM
Great. Give with one hand, take with the other. Anyone would think they work for the government!
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# 16
10-17-2012, 04:49 AM
Nobody seems to appreciate that this nerf is necessary. Finally escorts will become glass cannons again. Cruisers don't need to worry; they heal just fine without the 3 piece Borg set. Science ships have their shields and control abilities to keep them safe. Time for escorts to take the hits they deserve to take.

Don't worry guys, your overpowered Fleet Defiant / Bird of Prey will still have enormously high defence and dodge incoming fire like a champ!
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# 17
10-17-2012, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by fulleatherjacket View Post
Ok, before season 7 the Borg set has 4 pieces:

2 pieces give you a bonus chance for hull repair which will give you up to 30% of your hull back.

3 pieces gives you a chance for a shield heal bonus which happens when your shields go below 20%.

4 pieces gives you a lame tractor beam.

Up until now, everyone has been using the borg engines, deflector, assimilated module (for the hull and shield healing set bonuses) and the MACO shield (which is the best shield in the game).

After season 7, they're removing the assimilated module as a set piece and making it a part of its own set. So, to get the 3rd set bonus shield heal I described above, you have to use the lame Borg shield.

Everyone is now QQing because of this.
So, they nerved an overpowered combination or boosted the omega set on a test server and everyone here is "aaaaaaahhh my escort is useless" ... Well, take a engie/cruiser with in STF's. They can provide Heal and/or tanking for you ;-)
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# 18
10-17-2012, 04:55 AM
Plus, no matter what, everyone will still be able to use the Borg console on top of the set of his choice.
And even combine the new Borg set which consists of the console and 2 ship weapons. So possibly more visual Borg crap on your ship than ever before. Bound to make some people happy.
I wonder if equipping all 6 parts turns your ship completely Borg now.

Last edited by timelord79; 10-17-2012 at 04:58 AM.
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# 19
10-17-2012, 04:59 AM
Id prefer more dynamic sets from the devs rather than nerfing a whole class just because the devs only know how to nerf...

Last edited by darkenzedd; 10-17-2012 at 05:02 AM.
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# 20
10-17-2012, 05:04 AM
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Thats ok guys, lets just see how long you last with your dpsless cruisers in elite stfs and other content on your own.
With no escorts to do the dps required in the dps only game that is sto, I guess we will be hearing QQ from you guys pretty soon over how no one can complete elite missions after the nerf

Although thats ok isn't it, because it was necessary.....
Lol, so all escort captains are going to throw a tantrum and quit? Maybe you will, since you can't handle being unable to tank like a cruiser anymore while in your escort.

Though I have a compromise for you: You guys keep the overpowered borg set with the MACO shield and we cruiser captains get heavy beam arrays for us only that do spike damage on the Escort level. How does that sound?

And don't think you can delete your ridiculously elitist post before I quote it. You won't get away with it. Have the courage to take responsibility for your opinions.
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