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# 91
10-17-2012, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
It was stated by Cryptic to be a Mk X starter set.

Why would "another option" cost 5 EDC a piece when the MACO or Omega Force Mk X costs 20?
Agreed 100%. Borg gear is supposed to be a stepping stone that is above very-rare-level Exchange-available gear, but below Omega/MACO quality. Simply because people have used it in its current state and now they've got to exert effort to change their builds, doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

Gear adjustments occur constantly in MMOs. I don't know why this would come as a huge surprise, it's not *that* big of a deal.
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# 92
10-17-2012, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by red01999
Has there been any word on what's going to happen with the existing Borg console and its mission?
Now that is a very good thought. All of my toons get at least one Assimilated Module as soon as I rank them high enough to acquire it, but I actually like each ship to have its own equipment so I don't have to swap it around. Time to spin through Assimilation one more time in preparation for my Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit.



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Originally Posted by partizan81 View Post
Simply because people have used it in its current state and now they've got to exert effort to change their builds, doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
No, it's a bad thing because it's hitting me with a nerf I did not need. Doubly bad because it placates whiny cruiser captains with DPS envy.

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# 93
10-17-2012, 07:41 AM
Another change, another $5 per toon that needs a respec token.

Sigh.
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# 94
10-17-2012, 07:52 AM
I've read through most of this thread and I'm looking for a little confirmation.

In my Escort build (PvE only), I use the Aegis Engines, Borg Console, Borg Deflector and Borg Shields.

As I understand it, my 3-piece set now becomes a 2-piece set - meaning that I lose the 'shield boost' proc but not the 'hull repair' proc?

The reason I lose it, is because the console is now part of a separate set entirely?
So to get my 'shield boost' proc back, I need to swap Aegis Engines for Borg Engines and run the full Borg set?

Assuming the above is true - that wouldn't really give me much reason to keep the borg console and to attempt to find an alternative that provides better/similar buffs.

A shame as the 'shield boost' proc did come in very handy at times - is this actually live on holodeck now or is this a proposed change?
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# 95
10-17-2012, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by vinru821 View Post
Another change, another $5 per toon that needs a respec token.

Sigh.
What were you speccing into that you wouldn't now?

Ground changes could force respeccing more.

Most of space is going to be determined by what class of ship you fly and your weapons loadout.
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# 96
10-17-2012, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by darknyte80 View Post
I've read through most of this thread and I'm looking for a little confirmation.

In my Escort build (PvE only), I use the Aegis Engines, Borg Console, Borg Deflector and Borg Shields.

As I understand it, my 3-piece set now becomes a 2-piece set - meaning that I lose the 'shield boost' proc but not the 'hull repair' proc?

The reason I lose it, is because the console is now part of a separate set entirely?
So to get my 'shield boost' proc back, I need to swap Aegis Engines for Borg Engines and run the full Borg set?

Assuming the above is true - that wouldn't really give me much reason to keep the borg console and to attempt to find an alternative that provides better/similar buffs.

A shame as the 'shield boost' proc did come in very handy at times - is this actually live on holodeck now or is this a proposed change?

I'd think if you'd drop anything, it would be the shields/engine/deflector.

The Borg console is still a damage-boosting universal console.

It belongs in the sci slot of any escort.
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# 97
10-17-2012, 07:57 AM
Fascinating...

Speaking of adding more options for us all, the thought occurs to me that they may have plans to add more console/weapon sets. After all if they didn't everyone would go for the new Borg set for the bonuses, right?

I don't think this change is as bad as many believe it to be. I've always thought that they should add a 4th piece to each set other than the Borg set of course, just so there is balance, but now they're removing the 4th piece from the original Borg set so that'll no longer be a concern, there will be balance once again as well as many more choices to think about. The sets should offer choices rather than there be a single set that everyone uses or mixes with another, the ability to mix the Borg set with other sets was never intended.
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# 98
10-17-2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kalecto View Post
Fascinating...

Speaking of adding more options for us all, the thought occurs to me that they may have plans to add more console/weapon sets. After all if they didn't everyone would go for the new Borg set for the bonuses, right?

I don't think this change is as bad as many believe it to be. I've always thought that they should add a 4th piece to each set other than the Borg set of course, just so there is balance, but now they're removing the 4th piece from the original Borg set so that'll no longer be a concern, there will be balance once again as well as many more choices to think about. The sets should offer choices rather than there be a single set that everyone uses or mixes with another, the ability to mix the Borg set with other sets was never intended.
Oh, agreed.

But until they have sci consoles that boost damage, assimilated module goes in the escort sci weapons slot anyway.

That said, I think they should look at sci-consoles that, say, enhance torpedo speed or bleedthrough or cannon kinetic damage.

It would be interesting if transphasics became seen as a more viable sci-oriented option, for instance.
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# 99
10-17-2012, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by stoleviathan99 View Post
I'd think if you'd drop anything, it would be the shields/engine/deflector.

The Borg console is still a damage-boosting universal console.

It belongs in the sci slot of any escort.
You make a valid point, what I'm not sure of - is whether to drop the deflector or shield.
I'll have to look at what they modify to decide, but I'm leaning toward the shield as it's really quite weak compared to what I used to have (Aegis shield).

Any ideas?
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# 100
10-17-2012, 08:10 AM
Also, as an aside, unless the cutting beam and torp launcher are just balls-out awesome, the set bonus doesn't really scream out to me "OMG I MUST USE THIS 3/3!!?one!" I mean, +10 weapon power and a 1 sec damage reduction? /shrug.

Also, to answer someone's question from earlier, given that the current console just says "universal" and the screenshotted console says "MK XII," I'm guessing they're probably going to make the console something that is Omega-Force-point-purchaseable and drop it from the Assimilated mission. Would make sense if you have to purchase the other two items, existing users would simply be grandfathered in. That's 110% logical-but-unfounded-assumption.
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