Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 7
# 581
10-18-2012, 08:16 AM
i started the day the game went on sale in wal mart. i payed monthly for 1 year and got my lifetime subscrtion on the first sale. at the time of the bouns being handed out i still had 200 days left foe my 1000. but if you count the 365 days i paid for by the monthe i was already well over the mark. so let it go guys as a reward how about also giving the lifers red matter capacitors and tr 116s .
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 423
# 582
10-18-2012, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bolawon View Post
Your join date is June 2012. I lol'd.
Welcome to STO.

Fact you should know; forums got reset account wise and the earliest date is June 2012...so "LOL" right back at you along with the others.
EXPLORE.

Dec '07 Account
I EARNED 1000 days...I didn't BUY it! New LTS=Death to Vet.System: 10/10/12 Never Forget
Something should be done for those who cared enough to have a 1000+ day sub.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,200
# 583
10-18-2012, 10:14 AM
It bears repeating that nobody actually lost anything here, except perhaps some imaginary prestige which nobody else actually cares about.

"Don't let them promote you. Don't let them transfer you. Don't let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you're there... you can make a difference." - James T. Kirk
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 445
# 584
10-18-2012, 10:33 AM
I believe that if you invest in the game by buying a lifetime that you ARE a veteran. Just like if you believe in defending your country and you spend one day in the Gulf and then come home you are considered a veteran and should be respected as such. Now if they gave those perks to a silver that has not put ANY money into the game then would have a problem with that. Just MHO

Besides a real great guy in our fleet that has been saving up for just such a sale gets an extra bonus.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 238
# 585
10-18-2012, 11:00 AM
I've been around a while now, though clearly not as long as some - I was only coming up on my 700-day reward. Nevertheless, I am generally not a big fan of the Forums' trend of "witty" banter and typically insulting commentary, so I don't read or chime in much.

But, today I thought I'd jump into the fray. First off, I can very clearly see the point of those who feel as if they have been "devalued" by new subscribers being placed on "equal" footing. If you have been running the race, bunny tail twitching while patiently waiting for some of these benefits, only to have the proverbial tortoise catch up to you with one leap, it does seem a bit unfair, and it would seem that all of your efforts were in vain if everyone can cross the finish line at the same time. I also see the point of those who feel that PWE has taken the money route over the customer appreciation route. (...well, sort of - actually, everyone who buys a LTS, regardless of when, gets the same "appreciation.")

However, the fact is, everyone would have crossed the finish line anyway, soon or late, so whether you had your vet ship, title, or what-have-you before someone else, every LTS account would have caught up to you in the end. I'm not sure how several days, a month, even a year of "I have it and you don't" makes one feel more valued, particularly wherein this is a game, and those things you "have"...well, you don't really "have..."

I have heard a lot of vets say, over the last while, "OH, this is frustrating - why do I have to wait another 100 (or however many) days for [insert item/title here]?!" Well, now YOU have everything you were promised and don't have to wait anymore - does it really matter that someone else has the same title as you; the same ship; a Mugato monkey?

With certain mission rewards that come and go, the differences in access to things via the various Starbase Tiers, and the variations in the amount of "grind" each person puts in, there is always going to be something you have that someone else doesn't - there will always be the "Haves" and the "Have-nots." In short, if it makes you feel you are more a part of the game and the STO community than others to have something someone else doesn't, I'm sure there will be something you can find to distinguish yourself.

Personally, I don't really care that yesterday's newly purchased LTSer got the 700-day reward that I was due in another month or so - because SO DID I...

The only thing that really annoys me about all of this is that there are going to be even more people shooting off the stupid firework emotes all of the time, and DS9 is going to be swimming in Mugato dung!

Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge
(...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 238
# 586
10-18-2012, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tosveterans View Post
I believe that if you invest in the game by buying a lifetime that you ARE a veteran. Just like if you believe in defending your country and you spend one day in the Gulf and then come home you are considered a veteran and should be respected as such. Now if they gave those perks to a silver that has not put ANY money into the game then would have a problem with that. Just MHO

Besides a real great guy in our fleet that has been saving up for just such a sale gets an extra bonus.
Well put!

Fleet Commander
Caprica's Revenge
(...actually active since November 2010, which may one day be important to archaeologists, but not to anyone else...)
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 23
# 587
10-19-2012, 07:40 AM
Damn, there are a lot of crying pussies in here. Man up people!

Don't you understand that keeping all things running for this game, like servers and such, actually cost money in the real world.

IDK how you feel; I've bought a LTS and now have the same perks as you!

na na nana na!
Buoyancy
That fine line between ship or submarine
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,069
# 588
10-19-2012, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by lgxl View Post
Don't you understand that keeping all things running for this game, like servers and such, actually cost money in the real world.
And you thought to say that when the Pentium 2 server (without S for plural) is dead
Ensign
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 6
# 589
10-19-2012, 07:50 AM
what is wrong with the game why is it offline
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 15
# 590 Loyalty = getting shafted
10-20-2012, 02:13 PM
Thank you Cryptic, for shafting loyal subscribers.
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