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Join Date: Oct 2012
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# 11
10-18-2012, 11:42 AM
Based on the chart on STO wiki for the lockbox drop chance, and the item costs as of a few days ago I came up with an expectation value for a temporal lockbox to be 957K, whereas a key is worth 1.4 million. So unless you *need* the lobi for the BOP items you should only considering buying a Well from the AH.

The two most valuable parts of the Temporal box are the temporal science vessel, 72 million credits (on exchange) with a 0.4% drop chance = 276k/box expecatation, and Lobi crystals which are worth about 90k a pop (72 million for a mobius/800 crystals per), and you get 5.4 of them per box, so 490k value per box.

Even if you want both a wells and a mobius you're still better off paying EC, and if you want zen-> EC buy master keys and sell on the exchange.

I screwed this up, I had 569 crystals from dilithium + stipend zen -> master keys and I bought my way up to 800 lobi to get a mobius which cost me 55 million credits, whereas I could have spent 10 million credits, got the temporal warfare set, and then bought a mobius later (or with equivalent Real money -> EC) to get the temporal warfare set. Oops. Big big oops.

The lockboxes are nothing but gambling, and lossy gambling at that. So avoid them so long as other people (like me!) do the math after they wasted their money.

IMO they should make the lobi crystal rewards and the lockbox ships account unlocks, that would significantly boost the value of the boxes without significantly boosting the value of the boxes (you can only fly one ship on one character at a time, so it won't screw up game balance, but it would make the boxes much more appealing, more value to a person, but not more value to a character). That or they need to significantly boost the Lobi rewards or something.
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# 12
10-18-2012, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jim625 View Post
I understand that everyone hates these lockboxes but i just wanted to share on how to unlock the ship since i got it twice one for my mine character and another for my alt character so any way this is how i got mine

my mine character
I first started of with by buying about 5000 zen which cost me about 37 ponds and then another for 2000 zen and then brought some 10 pack lockbox keys and by opening the boxes with the keys i got the wells-class ship

my alt character
it only took about 5000 zen with about 40 lockbox keys to get the ship in my alt character

I'm not sure if this will work for everyone but just wanted tell you unless you had a different way of getting it?
This is the element of your "how to get" guide I have a problem with.

You realize that this is more expensive than ANY other ship in the game, and it is a one time thing... If you discard it, it's gone... and you only get it for one char.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 17
# 13
10-18-2012, 12:26 PM
Well you lucky punks, my experience was not so kind. I bought $100 worth of zen with the bonus 600 and an additional 15% bonus which just barley got me 101 keys. I received no Wells class and barley received 600 lobi to get the 3 piece set for the destroyer that I had to buy from someone in my fleet. So basically this one experience has soured me on the whole lock-box lobi system in this game and will never open anymore boxes again without a guarantee that the drop percentage will work properly.

It is the same problem with the STF proto drops which I am glad there fixing in season 7. Now if they did the same for the lock boxes I would not mind anymore about opening them, however right now it is a fraud/scam for the players in my percentile.

<And why the hell can't I change my title on these bloody forums anymore, stupid dummed down PW forums.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 347
# 14
10-18-2012, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by boglejam73 View Post
I copied my character over to tribble after I got the first one and tried it out. Not really my cup of tea. I am a pretty big escort ship fan.

Thats why I want one of the jem hadar ships. I'm hoping either the price drops on them pretty sharply when they are re-introduced, or I would gladly trade someone my wells class. I also have a ferengi shuttle I can throw in to sweeten the deal.
You'll probably be able to get a Mobius for that, but even when the bugs are available (assuming it comes back for the Winter event) the Wells will be down in the 50's maybe 60's at that point. Theyre already dipping to 65-67m. Bugs bottomed out around 150 when they were available from the Gamma packs.
Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2013
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# 15
02-20-2013, 03:39 PM
is there any way to get it without going bankrupt with zen?
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 16
02-20-2013, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jediv123 View Post
is there any way to get it without going bankrupt with zen?
This is kind of a Necro thread, but i'll give you an answer anyways.

There are Lots of ways of making Lots of EC's just in game, any lockbox ship can be bought for EC's on the exchange.

For example, i doff all my toons everyday, those missions can earn in excess of 3 million per toon per day if i get good ones to run, at that rate it doesnt take long to raise the money for most lockbox ships (darn Jem Bug excluded LOL). But a direct answer is no, you don't have to go broke buying Zen to get a lockbox ship.
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