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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 31
10-19-2012, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by emoejoe View Post
In this day is their any viable niche for the old hegtha and brel bops? What are u rocking in that uni commander slot, and why?


Im still running my ancient kit, but i can still get kills with a little luck, and alot more skill than the enemy (usually jem ship nowadays)

do tell, if anyone still flies em
What do you bop and why
Its Ho'sus all the way!

And the tier 3 one isnt bad either, just more squishy then ever, with some resistance its manageable.

MT
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 15
# 32
10-19-2012, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
Why use energy weapons on the B'rel, seems like a waste of money to buy it and not use enhance battle cloak.

I use this build:
fore: 1x quantum, 1x photon, 1x harghpeng, 1xtricobalt
or 2x rapid reload transphasic, 1x regular transphasic, 1x transphasic cluster
aft: 2x tricobalt mines

KHG deflector
Borg engines
KHG shields

2x neutrononium, 1x assimilated module

3x stealth console

3x torpedo consoles or 3x transphasic consoles

Just kill with EWP and tricobalt mines DPB3 if they look like a tough target or just use full tac buffs then fire HY3 salvo then finish with other torps.

Also the DPB3 tricobalt mines can be fun to use on the spawn in Kerrat, just kill yourself around 30 secs to 1 min before reset, respawn, cloak and sit on spawn, 15 seconds before reset fire all buffs, drop dpb3 mines, then Brace for impact and use other defensive buffs so you don't die from all the exploding ships Best way to clear the spawn to stop all the Feds from doing the usual spawn gank as soon as reset happens.

Well BO3 as horizon said. Also as far as the enhanced battle cloak, I use it because it allows you to use almost every skill while cloaked. If I'm bugging out of a fight at 20% hull it allows me to ensure that PH is up to help with the doubtlessly incoming torpedo barrage and heal up while positioning myself to re-alpha into the fight.

I also use it for prepping a fighting area by dropping mines while cloaked (or just to be annoying to a fedball) before engaging the target. When going in for the attack it allows me to activate more abilities before dropping cloak (FOMM comes to mind as it's often the last thing I hit before dropping cloak. It alerts the target but by that time I'm already dropping cloak and it's too late).

In addition, B'rels can ping the caps in a cap n' hold while cloaked. I don't think you can capture while cloaked but you can ping one to stop the enemy from gaining more points. It's a great way to save points while not exposing yourself.
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Captain
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# 33
10-19-2012, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thishorizon View Post
beam overload 3 layzor killshots.

thats why you use energy weapons on a bop.
I didn't say why people are using energy on a BOP in general, I use them on a BOP but on a Hegh'ta, not a B'rel. When you buy the B'rel off the Z-store what you are paying for is the enhanced battle cloak and are getting a bop with less hull too. The only point to use this ship is to fire and use sci abilities while cloaked, using energy weapons on it is pointless, might as well get in Hegh'ta instead and have more hull.
Captain
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# 34
10-19-2012, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sybok View Post
Well BO3 as horizon said. Also as far as the enhanced battle cloak, I use it because it allows you to use almost every skill while cloaked. If I'm bugging out of a fight at 20% hull it allows me to ensure that PH is up to help with the doubtlessly incoming torpedo barrage and heal up while positioning myself to re-alpha into the fight.

I also use it for prepping a fighting area by dropping mines while cloaked (or just to be annoying to a fedball) before engaging the target. When going in for the attack it allows me to activate more abilities before dropping cloak (FOMM comes to mind as it's often the last thing I hit before dropping cloak. It alerts the target but by that time I'm already dropping cloak and it's too late).

In addition, B'rels can ping the caps in a cap n' hold while cloaked. I don't think you can capture while cloaked but you can ping one to stop the enemy from gaining more points. It's a great way to save points while not exposing yourself.
Ok so you are taking advantage of enhance battle cloak by using mines and science before you decloak and after cloaking, but from what I understand about the other builds listed they are just using standard Heghta BOP builds and tactics in a B'rel when a Heghta could do the same job, is free, and a little tougher.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,465
# 35
10-19-2012, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
Ok so you are taking advantage of enhance battle cloak by using mines and science before you decloak and after cloaking, but from what I understand about the other builds listed they are just using standard Heghta BOP builds and tactics in a B'rel when a Heghta could do the same job, is free, and a little tougher.
There are some nuanced differences. For example, you can TB cloak quick decloak for damage boost w/EBC and the TB stays active. W/regular cloak the TB would drop. Also, as mentioned b4 you can cloak and repair and re-engage a bit faster.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,072
# 36
10-19-2012, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
I didn't say why people are using energy on a BOP in general, I use them on a BOP but on a Hegh'ta, not a B'rel. When you buy the B'rel off the Z-store what you are paying for is the enhanced battle cloak and are getting a bop with less hull too. The only point to use this ship is to fire and use sci abilities while cloaked, using energy weapons on it is pointless, might as well get in Hegh'ta instead and have more hull.
i get you 100%

all im saying is that i find it very easy to stay alive in this game. with epts1x2 and aux2sif auto popping on myself, omega around to get me out of almost anything, and rsp to bounce my go down fighting off of, it feels natural for me to have an engineering boff heavy tac bop.

just the lt universals tho, i can go without a sci boff these days very easy. there are a few bug builds that are a step in the progression there for me mentally.

and as always, the battlecloak is great to get out immediately, harden your hull, evasive and cloak. thats how i use it, to dissapear before i should be able to, not to just stay cloaked forever. might as well be a healer then.

have fun kill bad guys
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 438
# 37
10-19-2012, 05:55 PM
horizon come in behind you, uncloaks, disables your defenses and then takes advantage of you. It hurts...
Commander
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# 38
10-19-2012, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by falloutx23 View Post
horizon come in behind you, uncloaks, disables your defenses and then takes advantage of you. It hurts...
Or just decloak and frag them. Easier and just as fun.
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