Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 41
10-21-2012, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by allysnowleopard View Post
Trust me, I read you loud and clear, i to hate the fact that this epic costume is in ( well if the ever get around to ever getting it out into game ) the lobi store, but expect to see more and more of this kind of thing, the C-Store is dead the only things you'll see on it are ships, keys and one-shot power ups. the days of account wide unlocks are gone. the mass majority of FTPers only have one or two toons, so there is no reason for cryptic to make such account wide things anymore.

Note to the Devs: I love the game, and it pains me to have to say the things above, but it's the harsh truth. broken promise after broken promise has left a bitter taste in the mouths of your most devoted of players.
this statement is so damn true. I miss the days where there would be at least 5-10 things added in the C-Store a month. Account or Character wide.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 11,103
# 42
10-21-2012, 06:08 PM
Want to know what's funny? The reason I'm staying away from the Lobi Store is that $%&? character bound. I ain't paying for something I've already bought twice.
http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o633/centersolace/189cux9khvl6ojpg_zpsca7ccff0.jpg

So inhumane superweapons, mass murder, and canon nonsense is okay, but speedos are too much for some people.
Ensign
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 14
# 43
10-22-2012, 02:13 AM
agreed...

i stay as far away from the lobi store as possible... i've got no urge to buy things 3 or 4 times to unlock the same item on different characters on the same account...

if more and more things are added to the lobi store, and the C-store is ignored, in favor of character locked items, then it's just going to stop people using the c-store and lobi store altogether

M
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Posts: 1,059
# 44
10-22-2012, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by allysnowleopard View Post
... the C-Store is dead the only things you'll see on it are ships, keys and one-shot power ups. the days of account wide unlocks are gone. the mass majority of FTPers only have one or two toons, so there is no reason for cryptic to make such account wide things anymore.
Unfortunately; what you just stated is the truth. They wanted to work around the old format that was the CStore account wide unlocks, what good way around it and even avoid the issue by introducing a new currency "Lobi Crystals," and a Brand New Specialty Store handle by the ferengi themselves.

So what you stated is indeed the future of "ALL" Future purchases - Also keep in mind that anything new in the CStore will be either "Federation" or "KDF" Vessels and variant uniforms.

Anything different and unique will be placed for single unlock in the LOBI Store. Sad but true.

R.I.P. CStore

Nuff said

MIM
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,207
# 45
10-22-2012, 08:06 AM
Well, if all this hyperbole about the C-Store holds up, I can't wait to see what happens when master Keys become Lobi Store only at 125 a pop. ;-)
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 916
# 46
10-22-2012, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by stark2k View Post
Unfortunately; what you just stated is the truth. They wanted to work around the old format that was the CStore account wide unlocks, what good way around it and even avoid the issue by introducing a new currency "Lobi Crystals," and a Brand New Specialty Store handle by the ferengi themselves.

So what you stated is indeed the future of "ALL" Future purchases - Also keep in mind that anything new in the CStore will be either "Federation" or "KDF" Vessels and variant uniforms.

Anything different and unique will be placed for single unlock in the LOBI Store. Sad but true.

R.I.P. CStore

Nuff said

MIM
It should be noted that pretty much everything in the Lobi store constitutes something that in true Star Trek lore would not be used either by the KDF or the UFP. Temporal ships? Yeah, they are UFP and KDF, but they are from hundreds of years in the future. they technically should not be here.

The C-store will likely continue to serve as the launchpoint for contemporary UFP and KDF stuff. Maybe romulan stuff if they ever launch and begin growing the Romulans as a playable faction.

The problem is that there is no attempt at compartmentalization of the lobi store elements from the core game. Stuff from alternate realities and possible futures are literally invading ever aspect of the core timeline.

I don't mind STO butchering Trek canon. After all, every subsequent trek series that launched pretty much disregarded most of the canon introduced by what came before. What I have a problem with is that there is no real concerted effort on the part of Cryptic to consilidate some sort of STO-specific canon that even tried to make sense of all this crap.

They could have a successful direct-sales product in the form of a vibrant Star Trek universe that we can be a part of as an epic galactic-scale plot unfolds around us. In TV and movies, it's sort of a requirement to keep things focused on a specific ship or station and their principle crew. But in something like this, the entire virtual universe can be the stage.

If the game is good, regardless of whether or not revenue is generated by subscriptions or microtransactions, the money will come. If the game is not generating enough revenue from either one of those sources, then the game itself has a problem. Either that you the wrong things are being monetized.

It is a general concensus among most MMO communities that mindless grind is the reason why most people leave MMOs, aside from bugs and lack of content, though the latter is usually due to the developer figuring they can suck more money out of players' pockets by keeping them there through excessive grinding.

But to get this back on track, I don't mind that the Relativity uniform is coming to the Lobi store. the 29th century federation as we have seen it could be wiped out of existance by one single future historical event not happening or happening differently. So it falls into the "not real Federation stuff so throw it in the catch-all of seconfary junk we can still make a lot of money off of" category

Want to do a Temporal War concept that would explain why the 29th century Federation and KDF are involved in the 25th century? Bring the 29th century Krenim into the picture with their temporal incursion technology and have them be messing with other histories to improve their future. THAT would get the 29th century Federation involved. That would make the 25th century a battleground for two future factions, ans we're all caught up in the mess...
Those of us who see things for what they are need to get it through our heads that no matter how much we rant about it, THEY WON'T CHANGE!. We can either live with it, or we can go find some other game to play until it too embraces the same tactics. The reality is, STO is what it is, and it will not be anything else, no matter how much some of us may want it to be...
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 58
# 47
10-22-2012, 10:48 AM
Anyone that thinks that the C-store isn't making Scrooge McDuck amounts of money is either deluded or lying to themselves.

Screaming and ranting doom is the purview of this forum it doesn't make anything said here a reality though.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 90
# 48
10-22-2012, 10:58 AM
While we're on the subject of 29th-century stuff, can we get more Chroniton energy weapons (at the very least Beam Arrays)? They don't have to be tied to a set or anything, and please make them non-unique. I don't care if they're Lobi or D-Store, so long as they're affordable.

I know this is a strange (and off-topic) request, but I just love my Rainbow Beam Bank and I want MOAR!
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 155
# 49 So devs its been 2 weeks
10-25-2012, 11:08 AM
2 weeks ago a dev said in 2 weeks we would have the temporal uniforms....Where are they? I want my 29th century uniform to go with my phasers and ships.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 90
# 50
10-25-2012, 11:17 AM
Has it been two weeks yet? Not arguing with you (I want them too), just can't remember when that statement was made...
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