But AMS is only AMS for the first 5-6 seconds. For the rest of the duration it's just like SS, you can see everyone, but not factions.

For me, AMS is a deluxe killer ability. Most of the times I end up in space without a ship, AMS is to blame... I shudder to think of what it could do if put into system...combined with SS...on 5 sci captains in escorts... maybe the veteran ship, with 2 copies of SS... Tractor beams...Scramble...SNB...SensorScan... There aren't enough sciteams in STO to get out of that... :p

Like many other tactics that you can use in combat it isn't actually tasteless. It is actually



...a bit salty!!!



Premade vs Premade, you decide beforehand or you don't. If you don't well there you go.

I wouldn't worry too much. "NC" are well known for spam-mades, and some members even agro other players for using Jemmys, claiming them to be broken and a cheat, despite several NC members flying them too.

Whoever this mystery NC is, of course...

I don't own an AMS console, but if I did it would stay tucked away in my inventory until it was used upon me.

If somebody scrambles me I shrug and say it's just part of the game. But AMS is special. I don't think it's a good console at all and think it's OP/Cheesy.

I have no problem with one ship running ams on a premade, the problem is when a 5 man team is running AMS, it then has a 100% up time and then some. Nothing like being ganked by ships you can't see or target.

Is Scramble bugged on all levels? I thought it was only III. I also thought they fixed it. Has anyone had to logout and back in from the bug recently?

Yeah, in a match against a certain premade I had my tray made useless by SS.

I think it's a combination of powers, more than just SS by itself.

They were using a lot of subsystem targeting, graviton pulse, maybe one AMS too.

I've also noticed that sometimes my mouse steering goes bad and I have to reset it as well.

It's probably all related somehow.

Time to sum it all up?

If we use it, people will call us hax-spammer-cheese-aholes!

If we don't use it, someone else will, because AMS is part of the game and just fine, and we'll have gimped ourself into defeat.

Yeah... I'll try to learn and live by this wisdom...

War is hell.

Most stupid about AMS is that if you have +200 in sensors, you still eat the full duration

Eh, not really. When using it people will more likely think of you as players without skills that need them to win. No serious premade will use AMS as part of their builds. This mysterious "NC" is something special and we all know that their ships probably auto-destruct when leaving spacedock without C-Store consoles.

There is no way to establish rules for public arena matches, so bring whatever you think you'll need to bring. But honestly, you or your team should really try to play (and win) without stuff that is considered broken, op or questionable, specially when you already have an odd fealing about it. At least this will greatly improve player and team skill.

For me its simple. When the other team is using things like Grav Pulse or AMS and I'm in a bad mood I'll equip it too and feed them their own medicine. It's not that you can't keep the consoles in your inventory for such situations.