Originally Posted by pantsmaster916

Why is this thread STILL going? Have none of you actually bothered to do a little independent calculation? Is basic mathematics really too hard for you? Or has the fog of RAGE just completely blinded you to Common Eff'ing Sense?

The odds of getting the doff you want from the grinders are the same as getting a good doff out of a C-Store Pack. But here's the big difference - you pay a pittance in Dilithium (even after these price hikes) vs. what you'd pay on the C-Store.

C-store Pack = 200 Zen * 150 Dil = 30,000 Dil

For 7 officers. 4 White+, 2 Green+, 1 Blue+

Compared to the new doff prices:

Whites = 250 (4 in a cadre costs 1000)
Green = 500+(250*5) = 1750
Blue = 2500+(1750*5) = 11250

Add that together, you get 11250+(1750*2)+(250*4) = 14,750 Dil

14,750 Dil for the same amount of Doffs that a C-store Pack charges 30,000 for.

So, that's a >50% Discount if you buy your Dilithium using Zen. If you earn it via gameplay, it has cost you exactly NOTHING, other than your time.

Time that you were spending playing the game anyway, right? If not, why the eff are you complaining?

Originally Posted by f2pdrakron

The Tailor is a fine example of the system works ... for PWE/Cryptic pockets.

You spend 160,000 Dilithium, about 1.6 million EC worth of Entertainment Provisions (Assuming Feringi bonus and from the lowest price seller, not assuming D'Kora) plus 15 Civilian Purple DOFFs (that is at least 15 million EC based on Purple replicated Emergency DOFFs prices) and for what?

So we can now buy a Uniform that costs 16,000 Dilithium + 8,000 Fleet Credits? and one that is, understandable* I guess, a character unlock?

*Understandable if not for the Dilithium cost besides the cost requirements to even access the store.

I looked at it, double checked and thought "the hell with this".

Originally Posted by emperormak

So what you're saying is that 1 random VR DOFF is worth 14750 dilithium. In that case, I have about 100 VR DOFFs I'd be willing to trade you for dilithium.

Originally Posted by markhawkman

I have plenty of purples, but you don't need the compactor to get them.

Asylums, prisoner exchanges, officer exchanges, Instigate Defection, and colonization support missions will give you plenty if you have patience.

Originally Posted by thisisoverlord

Hmm if people want the tailor in my fleet... they can work on it themselves

Thats trash.

Originally Posted by markhawkman

There's a reason why Ferra sells purples for 12k Dil. :p this is what the Devs think they're worth.

Originally Posted by thisisoverlord

It's not about patience it's about time I actually have in the game.

Originally Posted by thisisoverlord

No if the Devs thought purples were worth that they'd have stuck a 14k cost onto the grinder from the get go.

Originally Posted by levi3

If you are in fact - or anyone - wants purples - they can use the doff system to do it and not the grinder - as I stated I have aquired almost 1500 purples through the doff system - the grinder is being used by people to PROFITEER - by supplying the market with toons cheap to produce blues and purples - (something i do not do) and that is where my video was directed.

Originally Posted by markhawkman

I doubt the devs were expecting people to use the compactor as much as they have. I suspect that is their reason for this change.