Rihannsu
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 9
# 1 Ships for Sale
10-28-2012, 09:13 PM
I've noticed a trend lately that really makes me wonder what the developers reasoning for it is. There are several good ships in the Z-Store, but why not make all of the ships, Ferengi, Cardassian, Jem'Hadar and the new Temporal ships, available through the Z-Store as well? To get the necessary amount of Lobi Crystals from unlocking all of those stupid lockboxes, I could potentially purchase the lifetime membership at it's regular $300 price tag.

The reason I bring this is up that you can purchase spiral wave disruptors in the dilithium store, even though you get those when you are lucky enough to get a Galor-class cruiser. I can understand if it is a new promotional item just fresh out (like the Temporal ships and the Chimera destroyer), wait a while before moving it over to the Z-Store, but there are some players (I believe) that would like the chance to Z-Store the ships and give them a try.

Anyone else feel the same way?
Ensign
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 21
# 2
10-28-2012, 09:32 PM
I would like to see lock box ships in z-store as much as you. But then you would see everyone flying the same ships all the time. Plus as you mentioned you could spend as much as a lifetime membership for 1 ship. And that is what PWE wants. I believe that LTS's should be able to open lockboxes X amount a day.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 3
10-28-2012, 09:37 PM
If I am not mistaken, while you can see those weapons in the store, you can not actually buy them unless you have already unlocked a galor ship. Maybe thats changed since they were brought in though.
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 4
10-28-2012, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by salty8967 View Post
I would like to see lock box ships in z-store as much as you. But then you would see everyone flying the same ships all the time. Plus as you mentioned you could spend as much as a lifetime membership for 1 ship. And that is what PWE wants. I believe that LTS's should be able to open lockboxes X amount a day.
LTS can open 4 boxes a month for free.
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 163
# 5
10-28-2012, 09:49 PM
The reason they aren't on sale in the Z store is to ensure rarity.

Though theoretically, they are.

You can buy them for EC on the exchange. (70-80m last time I checked.) At the max, 80m, that's about 57 lockbox keys for about 1.4m a pop.

So that's 6,500 Zen (using 5X 10packs and 7 loose keys). Pop those up on the exchange and BINGO!

You just (indirectly) bought your lockbox ship for Zen.

500 years in the future and we still look like schmucks when getting our ID photos taken...
Ensign
Join Date: Nov 2012
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# 6
11-03-2012, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by khayuung View Post
LTS can open 4 boxes a month for free.
Sorry , im relatively new, how do i open boxes for free ?
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 133
# 7
11-03-2012, 04:22 PM
by using your monthly stipend
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,063
# 8
11-04-2012, 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dustyhayes View Post
I've noticed a trend lately that really makes me wonder what the developers reasoning for it is. There are several good ships in the Z-Store, but why not make all of the ships, Ferengi, Cardassian, Jem'Hadar and the new Temporal ships, available through the Z-Store as well? To get the necessary amount of Lobi Crystals from unlocking all of those stupid lockboxes, I could potentially purchase the lifetime membership at it's regular $300 price tag.

The reason I bring this is up that you can purchase spiral wave disruptors in the dilithium store, even though you get those when you are lucky enough to get a Galor-class cruiser. I can understand if it is a new promotional item just fresh out (like the Temporal ships and the Chimera destroyer), wait a while before moving it over to the Z-Store, but there are some players (I believe) that would like the chance to Z-Store the ships and give them a try.

Anyone else feel the same way?
There are two reasons for this.

First, CBS does not want it to be overly commonplace for Starfleet officers (and presumably KDF officers) to be flying around Ferengi and Jem'Hadar ships. It's really that simple, considering it causes a lot of disruption to the motif. As such if you see 100 D'kora hanging around DS9, and only one or two of the old saucer-and-nacelles ships that look more like they're ready for the scrap yard than to scrap Borg, you've got problems.

Second is money. You're asking them to drop 90%+ of the profit they get from this. This is not going to happen, since the lockbox sales are a large part of what keeps the lights on for STO. Even if the game is financially in the black if they dropped them all tomorrow, a lot of what PWE allocates resource-wise depends on what they think they can get from STO, so more income likely leads to a better, more stable STO. People don't like this, and often try to ignore it in their angry tirades, but it's the truth.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 9
11-04-2012, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rinmorinkasi View Post
Sorry , im relatively new, how do i open boxes for free ?
You need a lifetime sub and use that stipend, which... unless you did not enable your title, I think you don't.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt. Comm. Pion
What should I wish upon the endless universe;
To be able to smile and forgive everything;
That's right, if we light up the dream in our hearts without averting our eyes;
We should be able to walk whatever tomorrow comes...

I am V. Adm. Kha Yuung, and I approve of this message.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 138
# 10
11-04-2012, 07:05 PM
If the lock box ships end up on the c-store they could never re-use lock boxes or like in this case do the reinforcement pack promotion. Besides, why ever open a lock box if the ships are coming to the c-store anyway?
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