Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,063
# 1061
10-27-2012, 03:53 AM
so, I join a CSE.
guy writes in chat right in the second I warp in. if we dont play for the optional, he quits, because there is not much point in playing then... I say its a bit bad of an attitude for pugs. (isnt it? if you pug, dont expect to get the optional, but if you do, be happy about it, for optionals, there is the stf channel and fleets).

he says after 4 mins, he will know if we can get the optional or not. genius isnt he? I mean the second I warped in I knew we had a high chance of not getting the optional (apart from his brilliance ofc, because no doubt, he alone could get it). we had two escorts, a dreadn, a starcruiser, and a carrier. that is not the setup, you will get the optional in pugs. but he needed his 4 minutes, so I held back my unprofessional opinion.

after 3 minutes the cruisers are overwhelmed with the bops (they handled them, but they were not in control fully). so I help them. our hero declares, that we are all noobs, and ragequits. now we are four, I straigthen out the situation with the bops, and by the time all the probes were down, we still had 3 mins for the optional and the kang was safe, and got a new guy (in a sci ship :S)
sadly the first group of rapotrs did hurt the kang badly, but we would have gotten the optional (especially if our hero in his escort wouldnt have left)

still, he deserved his one hour penalty, when we pretty much finished in time, as we would have with the optional.
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 1062
10-27-2012, 12:50 PM
Been doing a ton of CSEs the past day to try and get my engines for a few toons.

Wow, just wow. Sometimes the groups are solid but their are so many horrible players. Which wouldn't bother me except...

When the baddies rage. Especially after a cube blows early. Three raptors are not that difficult to kill. And if you can't kill them atleast be able to CC them. Is that too much to ask? Or someone other than myself throwing tac team on Kang would be nice too.

I think the funniest one so far was where myself and another guy cleared out the probes under left cube killing the bops as they spawned only to turn around and realize no other probes have been kilt. So I kill three probes on right and the Neg that spawned and headed mid. At this point I was annoyed so I spawned the Neg and let it go off and kill a few fellow players which I would feel bad about except that every ship can solo a Neg or they shouldn't be in CSE to begin with aside from the occasional Iso crit atleast. I finish off the nanites under mid and pop the cube. Mash Evasive and all my abilities rushing off to the left. Smash the 3 raptors by myself then fly into the cube guns blazing. Cube dies I turn to see, 2 raptors on the Kang, one teammate on the last cube and the others defending. Sigh. So I rush over slap a tac team on kang, help kill the last raptor and the 3rd cube popped and we won with optional. And I got Engines *woot* and told everyone GG.

*Sorry just had to vent a bit lol*

I'm not that good of a player so I don't feel I have the right to rage on mah team. The only players good enough to rage can pretty much solo an STF and therefore have no reason to rage. Conclusion, STFs should be rage free IMHO.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 1063
10-28-2012, 09:45 AM
I did a starbase blockade yesterday with a 5-star troll. We'll just call him Mr. Troll for reference.

So I warp in with the other four players and say hi as usual. When the game starts, we all go off and start helping the freightors.
-a few minutes later-
Mr. Troll says "you guys are stupid heal the transports" and then "why do I always get stuck with rainbow boat (bleep)?" Now, there was one person in the match with a rainbow cruiser, but he was helping and for no reason should Mr. Troll be calling anyone that. As we continue along, he keeps on whining about how pathetic we are and that all four of us can barely help one transport (I can save a freightor all by myself, but apparently he doesn't pay enough attention).

One other player says "What is he whining about?" and I reply "No idea." Mr. Troll whines, yells, rages some more and then flies off about 60 km above the starbase. I tell the rest of the team that he's just farming our fleet marks now, and he says "what marks? I got all your points". I say "And what about those ones?" as a transport we saved without him warps away. He trolled on to the end of the match, we reported him to a GM, and he's got the exclusive honor of being only one of two people on my ignore list.

Half of what Mr. Troll said was bleeped.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 1064
10-28-2012, 11:46 PM
Those must some horribad players with bad builds if they can't handle Negs and Raptors in Elite mode.

I have no issues wrecking **** with my Escort build at all.


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Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 312
# 1065
10-29-2012, 12:22 AM
Well, I see a lot of peoples in ESTF's who aren't able to kill, as a Tac in an Escor,t 2 BoP in CSE or 4 probes in KSE. Worst I saw was an Tac in an Science Ship who did only 90.000 damage against the Assimilated Carrier.

The Neg'Vhars are still a problem for me in my advanced escort. To often they kill me with an Iso -.- My engie in the cruiser doesn't have a problem with that, but he needs to long kill them xD
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 158
# 1066
10-29-2012, 03:39 AM
There are some players that don't cease to amaze me. Through the weekend I did a few cycles of STFs and was fortunate to be in good PuG teams (got all 3 spaces' optional in a single cycle).
It was yesterday - KASE. Patrol Escort, MVAE and 2 cruisers and my Fleet Advanced Escort - not a bad setup at all. The first sign something was off was when we were shooting at the Tactical cube - it went a little too slow...ok, it happens, not a big deal. I rush to the right, and an Assault cruiser takes the defending role. I took out the Cube on the side closer to the time portal and left the transformer for the cruiser guy to shoot at while waiting for the next wave of probes. I wait for my Red Alert to go off and I full-impulse to the other side. Something made me turn my camera to the other side - and I see passing 13km off a Cube (remember I'm on the right and there's no one else except of me and the cruiser guy). OK, not a big deal - I kicked the cube which had wandered off to my side and then did the second cube on my side and the transformer. i went back to finish off the other transformer on the right. Then I left the cruiser-guardian alone and went to the left side (the 2 transformers were still there)....and...I find that the cube hasn't been invoked at all. A little annoying, but I killed it and the transformer after that. The rainbow MVAE was of a little help there. I gave a shoulder to the player punching the other side's transformer (he had it at 20%, which was nice). Then I go back to the right and started to work on the gate. At around 50% of it and 1:40 to the end of the optional, someone shouts "Quickly, kill the gates!!!" (on the sidenote, that same player was giving some orders from time to time). That's when something inside of me broke. "Sorry, but killing 4 cubes and 2 and 1/2 transformers, and a gate is about all I can do. Sorry I couldn't do the optional for you." was what I typed. I don't think it's a big deal to set-up properly your BOFF layout and ship weapons. And I'm Sci captain, not purposely build Tac - it's my build and my build alone - without looking at forums and so on (I spec-ed it some 6 months ago) - with their help even a monkey could do a pretty decent build.
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# 1067
10-29-2012, 06:10 AM
The new (season 7) method of obtaining STF gear seems to have prompted the appearance of some pretty poor players/setups in STF's. Probably players desperate to obtain as many EDC's etc as possible before S7.
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Captain
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# 1068
10-30-2012, 06:09 AM
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Well, I see a lot of peoples in ESTF's who aren't able to kill, as a Tac in an Escor,t 2 BoP in CSE or 4 probes in KSE. Worst I saw was an Tac in an Science Ship who did only 90.000 damage against the Assimilated Carrier.

The Neg'Vhars are still a problem for me in my advanced escort. To often they kill me with an Iso -.- My engie in the cruiser doesn't have a problem with that, but he needs to long kill them xD
The key to avoiding ISO death in my experience is to make sure no one else is anywhere near you. If you get agro slowly pull away from any friendlies and if someone else has agro get away from 'em!!

Also I have noticed that sometimes it seems to just 'miss' not sure if its because of defense or a glitch but high defense can't hurt There are times though that it just esplodes you no matter what sadly.
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 32
# 1069 Bad probe, no donut!
10-30-2012, 10:15 AM
I joined a KSN a couple days ago. I haven't done a lot of KSN but I understand how it's done.

The first cube went ok, nobody chatted or said hi except me.

When the cube went, two of the group went left and two went right. I flew center to kill probes. Things were going really slow and probes were thick from each side. Nobody was killing any probes as they transported in. I watched a couple of the other guys die while I was killing the probes.

I said, "What's taking everybody so long. Join up on one side and get it done."

One of the other guys told me to get over and help, they can kill the probes without a guard.

I said, "0k whatever."

So I head over to the left and start doing what they can't. I watch the probes, one - two - three as they go through the gate. Four - five - six get through.

I say, "Hmmmmm you guys are doing a great job killing probes."

Nobody says anything, nobody kills probes and we loose.

Then the noob insults start piling up from the same guy that says we didn't need a guard.

That's my story for the day. Have fun everyone.
Captain
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# 1070
10-30-2012, 11:31 AM
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The new (season 7) method of obtaining STF gear seems to have prompted the appearance of some pretty poor players/setups in STF's. Probably players desperate to obtain as many EDC's etc as possible before S7.
well, I think after S7 release this topic is just going to shine as a beacon through the madness of PUGs
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