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Survivor of Romulus
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# 61
10-31-2012, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dassemsto View Post
All good advice Soph!
Thanks: I really hope it helps people find enjoyment in the game again.


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EDIT: What we DO have reason for being bitter at, is the unfulfilled promises.[...]
I prefer to see them as stated intentions, not as promises. Again, it helps to keep yourself happy.
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Promote what you love, instead of bashing what you hate.
Lt. Commander
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# 62
10-31-2012, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dantrainor View Post
Move on to something better.

The grass really is greener in this case
but it aint rek, aint the same. taken a broken thing i love over a shiny thing i hate
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# 63
10-31-2012, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by dassemsto View Post
All good advice Soph!



"Worse" is subject to how you look at it.


Different is what I would say. It's an MMO, the rules change with every patch. Every few weeks, it's a new game. What was good before is crap now, and what was crap before is good now.

And frankly, if the game didn't constantly change, I'd be bored of it long time ago.

Also, what is broken today always seems worse than what was broken last week. Remember broken CSV and FAW that would swwep the map clean in a few seconds? Original SNB that shut you down for "a minute"? Broken Queues that meant you were lucky to get a pop in 2 hours? Chroniton clouds that filled your screen completely?.... Some part of the game will always be more broken than the rest. When new items/ships are launched, they will always be stronger than the old ones. In a few weeks, they in turn will be weaker than the next big thing.

What is broken will be brought back in line, eventually, and in the meantime we try our best to work around it. This is how it is. It will not change. It's in the nature of a constantly evolving MMO. And from what I hear, STO is really not that bad compared to other MMOs...

That said; should we stop raging in the forums when something is broken? Heck no! We're even fortunate enough to have the ear of a dev! A dev that has some capacity to tweak the game and make it better! I've been with STO long enough to know what a privilege this really is! 2 years ago, you could cry a river in the pvp forum, and the only dev response you would get was a forum ban from an angry forum-dev. My best advice would be to treat Borticus with respect, and pray he doesn't tire too soon of our (my own included) endless whining!

EDIT: What we DO have reason for being bitter at, is the unfulfilled promises. The promises of new resources devoted to PvP. That's just stringing people along, and is not nice at all. In STO, PvP is a low priority. That's fact. Maybe someday it will change, and it would be awsome, but until the resources have actually been allocated to pvp, Cryptic should stop throwing out promises.
i have no problem with the game evolving. i have a problem with them cooking up pve additions that can be used in pvp and not worrying about their effect on pvp until after its release. for pve it just has to look cool. for pvp it has to not be to powerful or replace something else. regardless of their intentions to make things funner with more and more interesting additions, they have had a negative effect on pvp 90% of the time.
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Captain
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# 64
10-31-2012, 01:01 PM
Well, I take it back then... http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=738141

/facepalm
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# 65
10-31-2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
Well, I take it back then... http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=738141

/facepalm
its about 30% worse then even i claimed and imagined
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Captain
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# 66
10-31-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
its about 30% worse then even i claimed and imagined
It was mind boggling - reading it. They start off by saying they realize that everything in it would make it too powerful. So I'm thinking cool, they've broken it up - so there's not one ship with it all. Smart move on their part!

But then I kept reading...and reading...and reading... then I went for a smoke.

It's like there was a disconnect between how the post started and what they did; because like you said - it's even more OP than described. It's actually more OP than how they started the freaking blog off...

...how they went from saying one ship would be too powerful to making three ships that are more powerful than the one ship would have been - is just mind boggling.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 67
10-31-2012, 02:09 PM
hmm... Looks like it's time to re-think PvP as we know it!

Can't wait to blast my whole healing capacity out of the front gun mounts! lol
Ensign
Join Date: Oct 2012
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# 68
10-31-2012, 04:20 PM
How to avoid bitterness:

Do NOT make a thread thanking the devs for being good guys, and the forum moderators for being such sensible people!

If you DO, they'll show you to the forum door and close it behind you. PERMANENTLY.

(posted on behalf of my friend, who failed to avoid bitterness and disappointment)
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 69
11-01-2012, 03:40 PM
I still say the best way to avoid bitterness and disappointment about PvP in STO...

...is not to queue FvK.
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