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# 141
10-31-2012, 11:33 AM
id rather face a siphon team then a runabout team. if you have TBR or EWP, you are immune to siphons. if all the escorts on your team for their second cannon skil used CSV1, its unlikely siphons would get anybody.

runabouts are worse, they chain tractor you for a longer duration then 90% of the player tractors, have frigate pet hitpoints, and launch as quickly as fighters. theres no way to quickly counter them at all.
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# 142
10-31-2012, 11:41 AM
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There is a reason FvK queues are so dead atm. Siphon drones and Tractor Beam using Danubes are making the game unplayable.
Fixed that for you since we KDF find the danubes as bad as the Siphon drones in comparison.

Honestly though these two issues are hardly what is keeping the ques low. Its a great many unbalances in many areas both fed and KDF that make the FvK ques low.
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# 143
10-31-2012, 12:08 PM
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Fixed that for you since we KDF find the danubes as bad as the Siphon drones in comparison.

Honestly though these two issues are hardly what is keeping the ques low. Its a great many unbalances in many areas both fed and KDF that make the FvK ques low.
I've been chain tractored by danubes as a KDF. That's why I run EWP with my heal build and I am looking at getting Theta radiation as well.

With Bops, I guess hit and run and Omega helps?

The thing is that it's easier to avoid being tractored than being siphoned. My Catbox can't reliably deal with them nor can some of my other ships. TBR doesn't work as well in my Catbox either. It's just too much of a slug to position properly. And I give up too much healing that helps my team stay in the fight. As a KDF, I don't have to give up anything in my healboat with the proper Doffs to deal with tractors.


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# 144
10-31-2012, 12:17 PM
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Then some other aspect of the game would take center stage as being OP, out of balance, etc. There is a 50%/50% chance its KDF related or a " My Cruiser sucks..." complaint.
Maybe someone (an evil Klingun, of course) called me...
And sucking siphons are worse than tractoring danubes, come on!
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# 145
10-31-2012, 12:23 PM
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I've been chain tractored by danubes as a KDF. That's why I run EWP with my heal build and I am looking at getting the Theta radiation as well.

With Bops, I guess hit and run and Omega helps?

The thing is that it's easier to avoid being tractored than being siphoned. My Catbox can't reliably deal with them nor can some of my other ships. TBR doesn't work as well in my Catbox either. It's just too much of a slug to position properly. And I give up too much healing that helps my team to combat them. As a KDF, I don't have to give up anything in my healboat with the proper Doffs to deal with tractors.
The TB Danubes, especially in carrier heavy teams, are the bane of the KDF player as much as the siphon drones, and a drain heavy team, is the bane of the feds.

They both can be countered or overcome with preperation and both will make your day suck if you are not prepared to fight them.

The Siphon Drones have a rebalance incomming becuase they caused such a ruckus and frankly they need it.

I am curious though if the Danubes will ever get a rebalance or if they are to continue having such high Hull for a pet, just becuase there are less KDF players to complain does not mean the issue is not present.

Then again lots of things needs balancing in STO. All we can do is wait and see.
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