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# 111
10-31-2012, 02:39 PM
im hoping the fleet assault cruiser could redress the balance a bit , much as i love the vesta , this is really very very strong .
its gonna be in testing , so it may well get tweaked and toned down
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# 112
10-31-2012, 02:39 PM
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Are you serious?

A Canon-Build Vesta with a Charged Particle Burst or Photonic Shockwave Build can easily make full use of those 6 weapon slots, just like Klingon Captains have done with BoPs.

Strip Shields or Stun, come in guns a ablazing with RF2, follow through with Tricobalt and blammo, target easily dead.

And lets not forget that 13 Turn Radius, which makes things all too easy.



The Vesta easily makes the Galaxy-X, the Regent, and the Nebula all worthless purchases.
What if you are a sci captian and hit your target with sub nuke, sensor scan first followed by your suggestions? and just for good measure throw out some tractor runnies?
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# 113
10-31-2012, 02:42 PM
So...so much for the Odyssey being the flagship of the fleet...here comes the Vesta. #opship
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# 114
10-31-2012, 02:46 PM
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So...so much for the Odyssey being the flagship of the fleet...here comes the Vesta. #opship
Hey, expermental ships are always more powerful than the flagships, usually

The Odyssey will run it's course, then get a new flagship series of ships in a number of years. And until then, the Vesta is still just an new ship full of experimental tech... literally a testing ground, not a replacement.
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# 115
10-31-2012, 02:46 PM
Are the criticisms based purely upon Vesta turn rate with a cannon weapon vs Galaxy-X with slower turn using it's own lance?

The blog doesn't offer stats for the console-based Quantum Field Focus Phaser. Which was why I inquired on page 1. We haven't anything to tell us how it does (or doesn't) affect the Galaxy-X Phaser Lance. This ship isn't coming out this week. Perhaps the Devs are taking more time to ascertain how best to keep the two beam weapons distinct?

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# 116
10-31-2012, 02:47 PM
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What if you are a sci captian and hit your target with sub nuke, sensor scan first followed by your suggestions? and just for good measure throw out some tractor runnies?
Or just use the Aux-based Cannon to take down someone's shields, while simultaneously draining your Aux so that the -Repel effect of TBR 3 is totally diminished such that your target gets hit by a ridiculously high number of pulses.
The first we heard of getting new PvP maps "soon" was in August of 2010. We're consistently told something will be coming with the "next" update. Absolutely nothing has come to PvP since launch.

I think it's finally time Cryptic stopped stringing us along, don't you?
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# 117
10-31-2012, 02:47 PM
hmmmm i wonder will the vesta be on tribble that would be awsome but i doubt that wont happen
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# 118
10-31-2012, 02:47 PM
In what world would *anyone* think this ship, as is, is anything other than monstrously overpowered?

She's as quick and nimble as an RSV, though possibly with slightly worse inertia. She's got the console layouts of the Fleet RSV, Fleet DSSV, and Fleet Nebula. She can mimic any Science Ship's BOff layout. She has Sensor Analysis and innate Target Subsystems like all Science ships. She has a shield modifier between a Fleet Science ship and normal T5 Science Ship. She can load DHC's like a KDF cruiser. She's got Beam Overload without needing to give up a weapon slot to a DBB, which means that once Sensor Analysis is built up you can execute Thissler-like alpha strikes (CRF, BO, THY). She has the same Hangar as the Armitage.

Just what the hell were the designers thinking?
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# 119
10-31-2012, 02:47 PM
Sweet! When do the Odyssey and Chimera get more costume pieces?
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# 120
10-31-2012, 02:47 PM
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Except Sensor Analysis is going to be a massive boon to those 3 DHCs. 3 DHCs is nothing to scoff at either - a lot of Escorts 'only' use 3 DHCs up front (the fourth weapon being a torp).

And trust me, VM 3 with 3 DHCs is going to be absolutely brutal. Or FBP 3. Or TBR 3. Or TBR 3 with 2 VM 1s with DOffs.

Anything any current Sci or Cruiser can do, this can do better.
Agreed.

At 40 seconds a 3x DHC 3x turret vesta will match a 4x DHC 3x turret escort. 60 seconds and it'll exceed it, to the point it's dealing damage as if it almost had 5x DHCs 3x turrets.
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