Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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hello all!

so there is this new hax ship on the horizon? (no pun intended) and you got yourself all worked into a fine little ragemode......

with either anticipation or resent...right?

well, your ole buddy horizon is here with a friendly little piloting tip for those that just can't wait to lay the smack down on some Vesta ASS.

you see, what happens after an overpowered ship is launched....in the queue's..... everybody rushes out with their partially tested POO POO build.


what you need..... ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


is a Horizon tested PEW PEW build!


what you will need:

a sci captain.
a tac captain.
voice communication
or a nice keybind to announce these 2 things

1 subnuke, sensor scan combo.....full aux and some torpedos.
1 attack pattern alpha, fire on my mark.... and some dual heavy cannons

you see....it is inevitable. there are cooldown gaps.

every target has a tac team cycle. most players still run reverse shield polarity.

so wait until that Vesta has run his little game.....then run your "Horizon tested" (TM) combo! nuke that ***** Vesta's RSP right into the ground. and Debuff that sucker with scans and fomm.....and here come the cannons and torps.

and there you go. one big OP ship blowing up right in front of you. and if he was rubber band healed back into OPness???? target the guy who healed him. he doesnt have anything to heal himself with. and if that guy is backed up.....well... you either ran into a partial/full premade... or a very aware pug. (the latter does not happen much btw.....or the first one actually)

have fun kill bad guys!

Last edited by thishorizon; 10-31-2012 at 03:32 PM.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 2
10-31-2012, 03:30 PM
Hrmm... I'd be interested to see what that pairing did against the Vesta build I did in the other thread paired with a Recluse.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 3
10-31-2012, 03:33 PM
Does SNB work against console abilities and 3-set bonus abilities?

I've only played tactical.
Captain
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# 4
10-31-2012, 03:35 PM
SNB clears your targets: everything.

and this combo kills in 3 seconds max btw. all the time, against every ship in the game. unless you are against a partial or full premade. and if you are pugging it against that, and not working in tandem with your teammates, you will lose anyway.
Captain
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# 5
10-31-2012, 03:36 PM
Cause in general, I'm picturing:

3 Vesta + 2 Recluse
2 Vesta + 1 Armitage/Fleet Armitage + 2 Recluse
2 Vesta + 1 Armitage/Fleet Armitage + 1 Recluse + 1 Atrox
etc, etc, etc...

Well, you get the gist...

edit: If it's a lone Vesta flying in a PUG - well, that's different.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 6
10-31-2012, 03:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thishorizon View Post
SNB clears your targets: everything.

and this combo kills in 3 seconds max btw. all the time, against every ship in the game. unless you are against a partial or full premade. and if you are pugging it against that, and not working in tandem with your teammates, you will lose anyway.
Good to know.

Thanks.
Captain
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# 7
10-31-2012, 03:41 PM
virus you are too focused on the ships and powers themselves.

how you kill in this game is through piloting and timing. edit: and coordination

i chew up bug ships all day long in my fleet defiant. (no boast, just truth)
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 8
10-31-2012, 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
Cause in general, I'm picturing:

3 Vesta + 2 Recluse
2 Vesta + 1 Armitage/Fleet Armitage + 2 Recluse
2 Vesta + 1 Armitage/Fleet Armitage + 1 Recluse + 1 Atrox
etc, etc, etc...

Well, you get the gist...

edit: If it's a lone Vesta flying in a PUG - well, that's different.
Can you say "holy I can't see the stars from all the fighter and tractor spam!"
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 12,079
# 9
10-31-2012, 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thishorizon View Post
virus you are too focused on the ships and powers themselves.

how you kill in this game is through piloting and timing. edit: and coordination

i chew up bug ships all day long in my fleet defiant. (no boast, just truth)
You're going to be piloting through the fighter spam from five carriers - which will also be dropping Grav Wells and Tyken's - laying down random Tric DPBs - some random chron spam - tractor spam... not even taking into account VMs and subnukes. Heck, throw in all the photonic fleet spam.

...I'm picturing mobile zone denial. I'm picturing making the game all but literally unplayable for the other side because of the amount of spam being dropped out there.

There won't be piloting - the only timing will be whether or not you hit the respawn button when it comes up or wait - and the only coordination would be deciding what other game you're going to play with your friends...
Survivor of Remus
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 10
10-31-2012, 04:00 PM
You plan works great but the flaw is what if you pop it when the person isn't on cold own there are far to many variables I've seen this done I've had it done on me the only real way for this to work is to drag it out do he gets frantic and pops everything. I always use sheds a lotus first then my 2nd row then hills then ill pop duel bats with and exocomp in my Doff slot. It makes it really hard to use this move but against an avrage player you will own but anyone tht dose real pvp and doesn't cheese it will be able to counter it. But non the less great move I find that this is part of the reason we don't get to many randy in pvp anymore but hey. Now what I'm Andrade of is if someone pulls something like this in the vesta. I mean yeah - the sub nuke but a Sen Scan followed by say a RF with phaser and oh no I it procs it's just going to be retarded. I'm not really worried about the vesta, most of the people who will be flying them will not know how to use it. What I'm worried about is seeing a panda roll around in one or even one of the better players in my fleet using one. I'm sure ppl will develop counters and your losing 3 cons slots if you want to use the set. That is something that most players won't be able to deal with
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