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# 71
11-01-2012, 10:59 AM
Works awesome for my multi-purpose saber escort It's not about the shield energy drain, but rather the 40% chance to disable shield facing.

As I'm not using all-cannon escorts, I prefer finesse instead brute force.
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# 72
11-01-2012, 12:47 PM
How to blow up a _____, by Esuzi.

Be a better player, with a stronger build.

Subnuc + Tacscort is cool and pretty brutal in a 2 v 1; however, it's not a death sentence. Things like science team, waiting it out, or not blowing all their cooldowns can keep a good pilot alive through it.

If we bring things into a 1v1 scenario, even the mighty bug can be defeated by a solid build with a good pilot behind it. Play to your strengths, and against their weakness; simple as that (admitted the Vesta is shorter than most regarding weaknesses).
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# 73
11-01-2012, 12:51 PM
Hmm how to blow up Horizon in a Vesta..

Quote:
Originally Posted by webdeath View Post

Tactical Variant/Tactical Officer

Cmd Sci: TBR 3, Viral 1, TSS 2, HE 1
LtC Universal: Emergency power to shields 1, Aux to Bat 1, Eject Warp Plasma 1
Lt Engineering: Emergency power to Aux 1, Aux to Bat 1
Lt Tac: Tac Team 1, Rapid Fire 1 or Torp Spread 2
Ensign Universal: Tractor Beam 1

Console Slots:
2 Engineering: Resistance and/or Borg console
4 Sci: Particle Generator x4
4 Tac: Energy type or Kinetic Damage type of choice

DOFFS:
3x Technicians
2x Viral or 2x Torpedo
Oh wait...you wanted to know how to blow up the Vesta? Oh sorry my mistake.
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# 74
11-01-2012, 04:27 PM
well, thanks to everyone who kept up the good fight for the past day while i was at work.

yes yes, the ship is +1 again, we all see it.

but +1 is not +15. which is what it would take for a player to be a 1 person wrecking crew.

this thread is more about sparking conversation about how to work in a team, rather than the fervor of the ship itself.

understanding the checks and balances of any system in the key to maximizing what you want to do in that system. the ships and weapons are just tools at your disposal. and, until i see otherwise with these 2 eyes, piloting is still 75% of PVP in this game.

i've reviewed the layout. and found it wanting. those who want a killshot in this thing will give up a lot. you cannot kill with just 3 DHC in a ship with that turnrate and tac boffs available.. its just not there. you will need more spike on top of that, from a 4th DHC or a torp. (hence teamwork)

those who want to make this into a sci ship will find it much less situational when you want to fire off that nuke scan and sci goody funstuff. its big, and the agility just isnt there like it is in a recon sci or comparable. (hence teamwork)

those who want to make it an egnineer sci healer, well, may be pleasantly supprised, as that is the only layout i see being this ships sweet spot. but, asi oddy may do it better...im not sure. (again, teamwork)

edit: so...its like being a paladin or red mage.....you can do almost everything...but, you are not really that good at 1 thing at all. which, is gonna be great for your average Kirkster.

and no, sorry Tea, you know that setup wouldnt take down this ole Horizon. i will evasive and cloak, or supatank you in muh bug. at the very best it will be a standoff. (that being said, Tea is one of the best ship builders in the game, and everyone reading should consider his advice)

have fun kill bad guys you all!

Last edited by thishorizon; 11-01-2012 at 04:30 PM.
Rihannsu
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# 75
11-01-2012, 08:17 PM
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and no, sorry Tea, you know that setup wouldnt take down this ole Horizon. i will evasive and cloak, or supatank you in muh bug. at the very best it will be a standoff. (that being said, Tea is one of the best ship builders in the game, and everyone reading should consider his advice)

have fun kill bad guys you all!
Can't cloaked when your TRactor Spammed. Or Perma Warp Peed. and TBR 3 should get the job done to help pummel your hull into oblivion with Tac buffs fueling it.
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# 76
11-01-2012, 08:23 PM
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Can't cloaked when your TRactor Spammed. Or Perma Warp Peed. and TBR 3 should get the job done to help pummel your hull into oblivion with Tac buffs fueling it.
attack pattern omega 3 up all the time bro. im free of your tractors and plasma.

i also run hazzards.

and 4 neutroniums or whatever armor suits the situation.

pew pew tea!

let the piloting games begin!
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# 77
11-01-2012, 08:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by thishorizon View Post
attack pattern omega 3 up all the time bro. im free of your tractors and plasma.

i also run hazzards.

and 4 neutroniums or whatever armor suits the situation.

pew pew tea!

let the piloting games begin!
everything must look like a nail when your piloting a hammer lol
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# 78
11-01-2012, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
everything must look like a nail when your piloting a hammer lol
do you even realize how defensive this game is?

just...

how easy it is to be offensive when you need to be?

i know you do.
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# 79
11-01-2012, 09:43 PM
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do you even realize how defensive this game is?

just...

how easy it is to be offensive when you need to be?

i know you do.
the game is so defensive the actual hitpoint totals almost don't mater, heals and damage come and go so quickly and constantly
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# 80
11-01-2012, 09:59 PM
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those who want to make this into a sci ship will find it much less situational when you want to fire off that nuke scan and sci goody funstuff. its big, and the agility just isnt there like it is in a recon sci or comparable. (hence teamwork)
But it really is, though... as dumb as it sounds, the Vesta basically is the Fleet Recombolomba despite its massive bulk.

That may be in favor of the RSV though, I mean can you imagine the pivot on this thing? It'd make the Raptor look like kicking a hot dog down a tunnel.

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