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# 31
11-02-2012, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by icegavel View Post
Tactical cubes? o.O Did you First-Time-Elite or something? One does not simply play a new STF on Elite first time. Do normal, know half of what to expect. Still, you didn't miss much, Cryptic forgot to give the mission any rewards.

Also, protip: Stay near the Queen's ship during the Bger fight, they won't use their Spinal Lances. Says so in the mission.

Speaking of spinal lances... CRYPTIC YOU TEASES. I've always WANTED a Plasma Lance... Can you give the G-X the ability to swap energy types, pretty please?
Yes it was my first time and I did elite.... Ive done every other one on elite... so might as wel do this one that way.

Yep... there are 6 tactical cubes. They dont aggro... so if you only pull one you can kill them about the same as ISE or KASE... but theres still 6 of them... and they each have a guard of 2 spheres. Too much.

Yes... I know about the lances not firing if youre close to the Queen's ship... doesnt help when you spawn 25km away.

Also not that this had any effect on the mission... but the U.S.S. Houston buggered off about half way through the tac cube fight... and several of the cubs, upon engaging them flew off in a giant circle before coming back to the Queen's ship.
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# 32
11-02-2012, 05:33 PM
I see this being a future Ausmonaut T1 ship challenge ^_^ HTFU
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# 33
11-02-2012, 05:35 PM
U.S.S Houston needs to be less of a problem (aggro borg cubes etc). Why is it not the U.S.S. Derperprise? The Federation's Ultramarines...
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# 34
11-02-2012, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by th3bu1itt View Post
probably pigeon holed with aegis set and 4 neutroniums just so you can say you tanked isometric charge
Nope, didn't even know I had to prepare for Isocharge...

Just my standard anti Borg set up. MACO set (granted, it's Mk XII), and 2 Electroceramic hull plating against Plasma damage. Not even a kinetic absorbing armor.

I might have been lucky not to get hit by Isocharge jumps, I don't know... but then i was trying to get a bit distance when she targeted me...
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# 35
11-02-2012, 05:44 PM
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Yes it was my first time and I did elite.... Ive done every other one on elite... so might as wel do this one that way.

Yep... there are 6 tactical cubes. They dont aggro... so if you only pull one you can kill them about the same as ISE or KASE... but theres still 6 of them... and they each have a guard of 2 spheres. Too much.

Yes... I know about the lances not firing if youre close to the Queen's ship... doesnt help when you spawn 25km away.

Also not that this had any effect on the mission... but the U.S.S. Houston buggered off about half way through the tac cube fight... and several of the cubs, upon engaging them flew off in a giant circle before coming back to the Queen's ship.
1: Never First-Time-Elite. The first time you did Infected, or Cure, it probably wasn't on Elite (whether or not it was the old version or new doesn't matter). Doing Normal gives you an idea of what Elite will be.

2: Spheres aren't hard if you focus them on Elite. After that, a lone Tac Cube isn't an issue.

3: The spawn point didn't matter to me. What, did you have post-mortem aggro? Otherwise it shouldn't be an issue at all.

4: What do you mean, "buggered off"? Did the Houston de-spawn? Did it fly to the other side of the map? As for the Cubes... I think they were doing a rain dance to appease the Queen. XD

Also, I'm more upset about the lack of rewards now that I remembered that my team completed ALL of the optionals. Part One? Curb-stomped that fleet ing half the time. Part Two: Came close to failing, but didn't. Queen fight? The optional was to keep at least one alive, and at worst we only had one DEAD. We beat that handedly, and no one got CRAP.
CHARACTER GRID (@Lord-Ice):
___ |___ _ Fed ____| ____ _KDF __ ____| Rom
Tac_|_Thomas Hale_| __ __Illusion _____| Silence (K)
Eng | ___Antilles _ _| _ Mirror Rygobeth__| N'Vek (F)
Sci _| __ Rygobeth _| _Lukor Son of Q'Tar | Devala (F)

Last edited by icegavel; 11-02-2012 at 05:53 PM.
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# 36
11-02-2012, 05:53 PM
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1: Never First-Time-Elite. The first time you did Infected, or Cure, it probably wasn't on Elite (whether or not it was the old version or new doesn't matter). Doing Normal gives you an idea of what Elite will be.

2: Spheres aren't hard if you focus them on Elite. After that, a lone Tac Cube isn't an issue.

3: The spawn point didn't matter to me. What, did you have post-mortem aggro? Otherwise it shouldn't be an issue at all.

4: What do you mean, "buggered off"? Did the Houston de-spawn? Did it fly to the other side of the map? As for the Cubes... I think they were doing a rain dance to appease the Queen. XD
It being on Elite the first time wasnt an issue. I can handle Elite. I knew what to do once I read the briefings.

Spheres arent hard no... and I can take them down fairly quick. Doesnt change the fact that they are there... (why are they there? Is 6 tac cubes not enough?)

No post mortem aggro... but when the whole team wipes you have to approach the unimatrix vessels again... meaning they get to use their lances again.

Buggered off as in flew off. In my ran I last saw it steaming away from the Queen on plasma fire. Never saw it after that.
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# 37
11-02-2012, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by amayakitsune View Post
It being on Elite the first time wasnt an issue. I can handle Elite. I knew what to do once I read the briefings.

Spheres arent hard no... and I can take them down fairly quick. Doesnt change the fact that they are there... (why are they there? Is 6 tac cubes not enough?)

No post mortem aggro... but when the whole team wipes you have to approach the unimatrix vessels again... meaning they get to use their lances again.

Buggered off as in flew off. In my ran I last saw it steaming away from the Queen on plasma fire. Never saw it after that.
1: Still, common sense says normal first, but you do whatever you want.

2: Apparently, no, probably because in KASE it wasn't even a boss fight, it was a first mob. But, I can see why you'd want the spheres removed. It DOES seem a touch excessive.

3: Oh, you got wiped. I suppose that would be a problem. But then, if I'm not on my tank, I make sure someone ELSE charges into weapons range face-first. If I AM on my tank... well, it's kind of my job to run in face-first.

4: Huh. And I thought NPCs were stupid. Looks like they grew common sense, am I right? XD All joking aside, I don't think its too relevant. It blows up in the cutscene anyway.
CHARACTER GRID (@Lord-Ice):
___ |___ _ Fed ____| ____ _KDF __ ____| Rom
Tac_|_Thomas Hale_| __ __Illusion _____| Silence (K)
Eng | ___Antilles _ _| _ Mirror Rygobeth__| N'Vek (F)
Sci _| __ Rygobeth _| _Lukor Son of Q'Tar | Devala (F)
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# 38
11-02-2012, 06:08 PM
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4: Huh. And I thought NPCs were stupid. Looks like they grew common sense, am I right? XD All joking aside, I don't think its too relevant. It blows up in the cutscene anyway.

Which cutscene? Admittedly I only saw the one when the B'Gers appear... but I didnt see the Houston get blown up then..
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# 39
11-02-2012, 06:16 PM
Did one on normal. Was pretty fun. It was different being Subnuc'd and feedback pulsed by the Borg, though.
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# 40
11-02-2012, 06:23 PM
Okay so i've been able to play it in elite, we won it quite easily considering that we had two rookies constantly dying and with poor builds in our team. At last some challenge for my endgame escorts! I died 4 times, and two times it was because I stayed too close from an enemy.

Build: Sci on escort (mobius), wells ship console, disruptor and the thermonic torpedo (making mobs rather inoffensive when fired on heavy mode btw).

The first part with the 6 tac cubes is easy. The USS huston does all the job. I'd consider removing him in elite gameplay. We're queuing for a challenge, not for a mob taking all the aggro while we quietely kill elite cubes aren't we?

The second stage with the two cigares is truely epic! I love the need to run away from/destroy the plasma bolts - they are really slow and this is fairly achievable as long as you pay attention to something else than pressing space bar like mad. Regen probes are quite weak, they can't really annoy us, even our average team had enough dps not to feel the need to destroy them. Tractor probes were just wandering around and not really tracting anyone. Why were they here?

By the way the safe spot is right under the v'ger, in the middle of it (0km). You can take some AOE shots but you'll never get hurt badly.

The queen's ship had a lot of powers, but it was rather weak so it wasn't an issue. I've been surprised by an AOE torp one shot (you could just upgrade the beam damage of this mob instead of making it a mini donatra) but once you know it you can avoid it. I noticed a tactical team (which is good), but she had almost no shields. And still no serious heals on an endgame boss.

To conclude: I love it! Some good challenge, especially with the cigares part. I've also been able to use my SNB in pve content, anf this might be my favourite part of this STF! It could be improved a bit to make a truely elite mission when we play it on elite, but at least we have some fresh meat to play with our new endgame OP ships.

Bonus: new voiceovers. They are pretty nice and welcome. I'm a bit tired of the old ones. And the cutscene was appropriate.

Last edited by diogene0; 11-02-2012 at 06:29 PM.
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