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# 11
11-07-2012, 01:13 PM
Bear in mind last tiem i checked into this torp spread hits less hard than basic torpedo fire, you really shouldn't be using it if you can avoid it. As for THY, check out the page on STO Wiki the numbers for each type of torpedo and vershion of THY are there, i've just never got round to adding the spread numbers, sorry.

This also means people who think that becuase their chaining multipule spread/HY together their getting 10+ torps of damage ar actually wrong. 2 copies of THY3 + 1 normal shot, (about the max for an escort with a single tube), with Quantums is only 7 toprs, not the 9 vishual fx actually fired.
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# 12
11-12-2012, 09:18 AM
I use proton trop spread level 2 with my cannon rapid fire ability on my Heavy escort. They work a treat in PvE.

Torp spread just looks epic!!!!! Wonder what Torpedo point defence system with spread is like????

Keeep treking!

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# 13
11-12-2012, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by carl103 View Post
Bear in mind last tiem i checked into this torp spread hits less hard than basic torpedo fire, you really shouldn't be using it if you can avoid it.
This isn't true. When they redesigned spread between season 3 and 4, they balanced it around 70-80% of the damage per-target as a same rank high yield. After they broke it up so it doesn't hit in one burst it's a bit lower than that, but still substantially higher than a standard fire.

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This also means people who think that becuase their chaining multipule spread/HY together their getting 10+ torps of damage ar actually wrong. 2 copies of THY3 + 1 normal shot, (about the max for an escort with a single tube), with Quantums is only 7 toprs, not the 9 vishual fx actually fired.
This is... sort of true. HY3 fires 4 torpedoes, each doing between 55 and 75% of normal damage depending on what type of torpedo you're firing. So all 9 torpedoes you see are real, but the cumulative damage is roughly that of 7 standard torpedoes.


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Torp spread just looks epic!!!!! Wonder what Torpedo point defence system with spread is like????
The point defense console doesn't work with torpedo powers. It doesn't share a cooldown with torpedo powers, though, and doesn't trigger the global torpedo cooldown, so you can fire stacked spreads at the same time for a wall of torpedoes.

Last edited by hevach; 11-12-2012 at 10:23 AM.
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# 14
11-12-2012, 10:51 AM
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This isn't true. When they redesigned spread between season 3 and 4, they balanced it around 70-80% of the damage per-target as a same rank high yield. After they broke it up so it doesn't hit in one burst it's a bit lower than that, but still substantially higher than a standard fire.

This is... sort of true. HY3 fires 4 torpedoes, each doing between 55 and 75% of normal damage depending on what type of torpedo you're firing. So all 9 torpedoes you see are real, but the cumulative damage is roughly that of 7 standard torpedoes.
It's more about timing than rank of power. HY2 gets you 3 quantums @ roughly 2.5 of total unaided torpedo damage, so firing twice, split with TS2 will get you equivalent of 9 in 17 seconds (if you time the maneuver correctly), and quicker depending on how many of your torpedo Doffs proc, which mine usually do 30% of the time. 8.5 torps+1 real one is pretty close. Thats not including other bonus's.
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# 15
11-12-2012, 04:29 PM
I use both on my Fed tac. Spread is good in fleet defense at the beginning of a wave then then seconds later I high yield one of the larger ships thats still standing. As for stfs spread is good against ships but I usually do high yield so I dont become the center of attention.
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# 16
11-13-2012, 11:52 AM
I use both too, Spread 3 for many many targets, and HY 2
I too use spread in conjunction with cannonspread, chew shields and fire away.

The choice of torpedo is more like a flavour since all torpedos heavily rely on kinetic damage.
Transphasic is a bit different but then again has longer reload times. Ive tried the rapidlaunch device too its neat.

But what I really like is the fat tricobalt, but you really have to be careful, HY tricobalt blast radius is even a bit over 2 kms, I usually fly up to a cube or something else to reduce flight time of that thing (my ship is a little bit faster than a HYII tricobalt) It still happens that I blow myself up

A well placed HY tri can easily achieve 60K damage and still has a huge explosion radius, very good if various shield facings of enemies are down. Tricobalt spread on targets that are more apart.

Another thing I use HY over spread is in shuttle. But there I use Plasma Torpedo with reman set to make it faster flying, you should try it the fat nuke is not that slow anymore.

And on a sidenote: Tricobalt Mines are even more devastating than torpedos, but I heavily suggest on using Spread Pattern Beta 3 for that. My record is 4x 200K damage with those babies (lots of dmg buffs active+crit)

For long time bombardments I suggest Photon torpedos, still the best DPS, and most likely even higher if you use HY 3 or Spread 3 + 3 purple or blue doffs with torpedo recharge.

Did anyone mention yet that you sometimes get free Heavy Yield procs out of those? Even my shuttle with Plasma sometimes shoots 2 or even 3 torpedos in short succession

So always keep an eye out for Projectile DOffs and assign them.
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# 17
11-13-2012, 04:54 PM
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This isn't true. When they redesigned spread between season 3 and 4, they balanced it around 70-80% of the damage per-target as a same rank high yield. After they broke it up so it doesn't hit in one burst it's a bit lower than that, but still substantially higher than a standard fire.
I haven't had chance to dig out my photon torps, but for plasma torpedoes it's dealing less than half my single shot damage.
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# 18 Torp spread
01-14-2013, 01:58 PM
I`ve found that on escorts, the torp spread is good in PvE as you can hit multiple enemies in one swoop go, it works mint with my cannons I had on my Akira class. I use spread lvl 2 and Torp spread lvl 2. it don`t work to well on the LRSV Intrepid class as I tried it on my mate`s ship.

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# 19
01-14-2013, 02:44 PM
I use 'em both. My current main escort uses CRF3, THY3, CSV1, and TS2. I like using rapid fire and high yield with APA3 as my main spike, then come back with APO1 and the AoE shots to follow up. If I'm approaching a group I might start with the AoE attacks. I also have BOFFs with CSV3 and TS3. The spread attacks are great for groups, although one must be careful in an escort (especially in elite STFs) about drawing too much heat upon oneself.
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# 20
04-02-2013, 03:23 AM
Hi guys

I use plasma torpedos on my LRSV with Torp Spread. My build is very PvE Tankish like.
I adds some boom to the ship, My Intrepid is looking like a battleship with these on and not a science vessel.
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