Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 170
# 171
11-08-2012, 01:37 AM
NEVER, in any MMO i have played, have i ever seen the dev team so savagely butchering and amputating players of rewards they SPENT time accumulating LEGITELY.

There are no cheats to get Prototype Ground Borg Techs. Players had to be THERE and SPENT the time and be LUCKY over all that to acquire them.

All the rewards they got over the past months, players DESERVED them.

Other than the Dilithium Daily Officer 3 clicks which i myself find borderline an exploit, ALL OTHER content in game was grinded HARD, especially STF content ( for most players ).

I simply am flabergasted by the way devs are acting here.

Devs would tell us that they are about to do a server wipe and it would feel just BARELY harshier than what they are about to do.

So yes, cash out your chips now while you can, because real life IRS looks like gentlemen compared to STO and Perfect World bosses.

I think even casino shylocks offer better rates than Cryptic.
Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 347
# 172
11-08-2012, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by weylandjuarez View Post
Yep - right now I can buy 7 pieces of Mk XII ground or space gear with my Proto Tech - that doesn't even touch on what I can buy with the 150 EDCs, 40 Proto Salvage and 52 Rare Salvage.

My box on Tribble nets me 3000 Marks, 13 BNPs and 4000 Dilithium. Even assuming I actually get 26 BNPs (which it seems, I won't) I can buy precisely 2 pieces of Mk XII ground or space with its contents (and I'll have to pay Dilithium on top since the quantity in the box doesn't cover it).

Disgraceful.

*Edit* based on what I've got and the costs listed - to have 'comparative' (though still lesser) value from this crate I would expect to receive:

6750 Omega Marks
70 Borg Neural Processors
173,000 Dilithium (which should be refined)

= 3 x Mk XI Space, 2 x Mk XII Space 5 x Mk XII Ground.

That still doesn't take into account the value of the Rare and Proto Salvage (just the Tech and EDCs). All talk of retaining our 'purchasing power' is quite simply a bare-faced lie.
Values are fine and I think a little more reasonable, but to the end of being refined, no. It wouldn't be refined if you cash it out now, nor should it be when you crack open the case.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 938
# 173
11-08-2012, 01:59 AM
Presumably, the items from special projects are built, not bought. 40 hours to build something from alien technology isn't bad at all.

BTW, "equal purchasing power" is not converting each tech to enough materials to build a piece. Each tech can only buy one specific item. And if you have them in storage I assume that means you don't want that one specific item. It would be unfair to reward someone who only ever played ISE with full all sets just because they stockpiled 20 shield tech.

Fair conversion IMHO would be:
2 EDCs = 1 BNP + however many omega marks you get from an elite STF (this is the base reward for elite STFs)
1 rare salvage = whatever it costs to buy a MkX anti-borg weapon (or slightly less if the new borg weapons are better than the old ones)
1 proto salvage = whatever it costs to buy a MkXII anti-borg weapon
1 tech = maybe about 1/3rd of what it costs to build a piece of that type and mark
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 68
# 174
11-08-2012, 02:03 AM
guys.. seriously.. just go buy dilithium at roxy for your chips and stop this sh*tstorm, since it will lead nowhere..
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 938
# 175
11-08-2012, 02:12 AM
Seriously, when I open my box I'm going to laugh at all the people who sold their loot for ore and are still trying to get it refined. Remember its 8k a day, and thats assuming you don't do anything that rewards dilithium.

People whine about the box being locked until they gain rep, but don't calculate how long it will take to turn that pile of ore to a useful form.
Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 68
# 176
11-08-2012, 02:16 AM
well, or convert half of it for dil for fleet purposes... whatever man, it was just an idea.
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 873
# 177
11-08-2012, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by warpangel View Post

People whine about the box being locked until they gain rep, but don't calculate how long it will take to turn that pile of ore to a useful form.
I dont care about it being locked, I care about the return I get from the conversion. Like I said before, I have a tonne of dilithium on a couple toons now so I no longer have to farm with them. All I have to do on those toons is log in once a day to refine. I can focus on getting my alts up to the same level as my main now and actually maybe play the game.
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Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 68
# 178
11-08-2012, 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bubblygumsworth View Post
I dont care about it being locked, I care about the return I get from the conversion. Like I said before, I have a tonne of dilithium on a couple toons now so I no longer have to farm with them. All I have to do on those toons is log in once a day to refine. I can focus on getting my alts up to the same level as my main now and actually maybe play the game.
so basicly.. you're making it a "farmville"-clone instead of playing?
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 873
# 179
11-08-2012, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by derbock203 View Post
so basicly.. you're making it a "farmville"-clone instead of playing?
I've never played farmville, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,202
# 180
11-08-2012, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by archoncryptic View Post
Since we've recently increased the cost in Neural Processors necessary to purchase items, we've just increased the number of Neural Processors that will be allotted to players in the conversion. You'll be getting approximately (but not exactly) twice as many as you're seeing on Tribble right now. Numbers are still in flux.
No offense but your boss promised us that some players would be given the opportunity to buy one of the new sets with the reward boxes, if they had enough STF loots. Currently, the only sets these players can buy are:
- a Mk X space set
- maybe one complete ground set, if they hit the highest tiers with stuff worth 500k dilithium or so

But what about the space sets? Are you still working on the dilithium rewards or do we have to convert our stuff now?
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