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# 11
11-07-2012, 10:07 PM
We need a proper 360 beams cryptic !
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# 12
11-07-2012, 11:28 PM
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I am also concerned as to whether it is affected by Tetryon Glider or the phaser proc from the new science consoles. That's additional DPS that I don't want to lose.
It is a kinetic weapon, tet glider only works with energy weapons
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# 13
11-08-2012, 02:49 AM
As per the weapon itself, it's an energy weapon. It just deals kinetic damage. So tetryon glider will work with it.


The question is why all the beam skills don't work with it, but presumably that's because it's 360 degree and the beam skills might be op if they did, but IMO that's a ridiculous reason.
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# 14
11-08-2012, 04:04 AM
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As per the weapon itself, it's an energy weapon. It just deals kinetic damage. So tetryon glider should work with it.


The question is why all the beam skills don't work with it, but presumably that's because it's 360 degree and the beam skills might be op if they did, but IMO that's a ridiculous reason.

FTFY

It would be OP, escorts would be able to drop your shields at the beginning of an alpha and absolutely murder you. Plus the added damage of the cutting beam on hull, and wouldn't give up anything in the process. Right now they at least have to swap out a heavy cannon with a dual beam bank, or they have to drop a turret for a rear mounted array.

I understand why they don't count it as a beam weapon, but I do think they should change the name to "kinetic cutting laser" to avoid confusion.

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# 15
11-08-2012, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by illcadia View Post
As per the weapon itself, it's an energy weapon. It just deals kinetic damage. So tetryon glider will work with it.


The question is why all the beam skills don't work with it, but presumably that's because it's 360 degree and the beam skills might be op if they did, but IMO that's a ridiculous reason.
My guess is more along the lines of simplfying the programming involved. For a previous example, look at Harghs. what would a Torp spread of those even look like?
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# 16
11-08-2012, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by illcadia View Post
As per the weapon itself, it's an energy weapon. It just deals kinetic damage. So tetryon glider will work with it.


The question is why all the beam skills don't work with it, but presumably that's because it's 360 degree and the beam skills might be op if they did, but IMO that's a ridiculous reason.
Because it's already a very interesting weapon as it is, with 360? fire angle? It can be used instead of a turret, and the two part set power is definitely worth it, so it's already really a great item imo.
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# 17
11-08-2012, 08:37 AM
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Because it's already a very interesting weapon as it is, with 360? fire angle? It can be used instead of a turret, and the two part set power is definitely worth it, so it's already really a great item imo.
Personally I can see it replacing the aft torpedo in a lot of people's builds.
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# 18
11-08-2012, 08:41 AM
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Personally I can see it replacing the aft torpedo in a lot of people's builds.
Yep - it's a torpedo replacement set - Omega up front, Cutting Beam at the back.

Might try it out on my Excelsior...
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# 19
11-08-2012, 08:47 AM
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Personally I can see it replacing the aft torpedo in a lot of people's builds.
I've never used an aft torpedo, the proc from turrets are too valuable to use a torp, and it's not worth it on turrets. But this beam is definitely worth it, whatever build you run. The torp might not be usefull on cruisers though, but that's another issue.
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# 20
11-08-2012, 08:57 AM
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look at Harghs. what would a Torp spread of those even look like?
Next c-store BoP (lol I'm dreaming), Advanced Hargh'peng Torpedo launcher that is affected by torp spread and torp hy. I would throw all my money at that.
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