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Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 61
11-03-2012, 10:23 PM
What the startrek fans think I'n this game means
A great deal to cryptic, there not dumb and they know
What happened to swg when soe rejected that
Fan base and changed starwars into wow I'n space

The game crumbled because the fans abandoned
It and took there money with them

Without star trek I'n the logo of this game it would fail
I'n months
It's too weak as a generic space mmo and has little
To no pvp content currently but we can always hope
Jellico....Engineer.....Stargazer KDF Tac
Saphire.. Science.....Ko'el Rom Kdf Tac
Leva........Tactical.....Mailu KDF Sci

JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,273
# 62
11-04-2012, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gaalom View Post
"The fundemental flaw in everything you said is that this is fiction!!! Klingons don't exist!!

What IS real : PWE is a business - they want profit and lots of money - that is ALL that matters. Whether the Feds and KDF join is determined by one factor only : can it make MONEY!!

you people need to get that straight."

First and foremost why are you here then? Its not because this is the hotest mmo out there. I am here for as authentic of a star trek experience as I can get.

As for your friends over in pefect world. You do not want to know what I would do to China given the chance. Well scratch that I am going to be bad and say it anyways. Sense you brought RL into this covo about Fantasy I am going let you in on some history. The chinese are responsible for a great many American deaths, first in Korea, then in Vietnam. So I have no time for perfect world, if cryptic can use and twist them to improve star trek online so much the better.

If you do not care about the lore of star trek or care for cryptic to maintain a authentic star trek universe, then lovei I have another question for you. Why then do continually get involved in threads like this? If its only about a business decision then you should not care what others think.
He's here because he likes getting people all riled up over speculations and the like. He's a troll at heart.

Oh, and I don't care what you have to say in response, levi3. . .you're just a pot-stirrer and overall annoying loudmouth with a penchant for ticking the KDF community off for little or no real reason. That's all I need to know.
Career Officer
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# 63
11-04-2012, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by levi3 View Post
Look at Endgame from VOY - different timeline - voyager makes it home - then Janeway goes into the past with ablative armor - meets herself - gives ablative armor - voyager goes home a different time/route - no future janeway - no Ablative armor and no changes - in an endless circle

but that is canon
Not quite.
The part that affects the prime timeline is canon, the rest is the alternate part.

Perfect example it "Timeless".
You won't find "Voyager crashed on an iceplanet" as a canon part of that ship's history.
The stuff that happens before and after the changes in the timeline that undo that as canon fact, including future Harry's mysterious message to himself.
You will however find the statement that the ship crashed in an alternate reality.
because it's in an episode that's canon.
The event isn't because it was undone.
Or as the official Star Trek homepage put it between 2006 and 2010

"As a rule of thumb, the events that take place within the live-action episodes and movies are canon, or official Star Trek facts."

This is neither since it was undone abd thefore didn't happen.
My guess is this is simply a textbook case of not working communication between the two of us.
Career Officer
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# 64
11-04-2012, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by levi3 View Post
See my edited last post.

But as far a "canon" is concerned - STO through that baby out with the bathwater a long time ago - now its no-holds barred.

So heck Cryptic can and will do whatever they want - and they will do whatever they want with the KDF whether it pisses the players off or not - THAT IS A FACT
Except you totally forgot one player in this matter: CBS.
The people who stopped Cryptic from doing stuff like the Enterprise-J and the T5 Connie.
Cryptic can't do whatever they want because they'll have to get permission first.

And with regards to that remember there was once before an attempt to merge the Klingons into the Federation: in the 2nd season of TNG.
In the episode "Samaritan Snare" Wesley said the Klingons joined the Federation and Picard pretty much agreed with him.
The creators realized what a monumentally stupid idea that was and dropped the whole thing later on.
It's therfore unlikely they'll bring it up again.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 214
# 65
11-04-2012, 05:31 PM
This discussion reminds me of two old klingon trailers. I posted them before, but they speak to the heart of the matter so well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftBaJsIUQA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqdBni-3wSA

If only we could do those things on command, see a Federation ship attack it instantly, and create a pvp signal contact location at random at a random site in a sector block.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 86
# 66
11-04-2012, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by purvee1 View Post
I've now got an image of STO Singing the I can change song from the South Park Film, and I can't get it out of my head.

Damn it.
You too? Saddam with bad klingon makeup and the goofy slanted asian parody eyes....

I know you pain...
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 643
# 67
11-04-2012, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jellico1 View Post
It's too weak as a generic space mmo and has little
To no pvp content currently but we can always hope
Indeed. Weren't we promised a complete revamp of PvP not so long ago? Never heard of it again since. Back then I think they said that they considered either removing it completely or introducing a brandnew. reworked PvP system. Then they decided to do the later. We're still waiting.
Empire Veteran
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# 68
11-08-2012, 09:33 AM
Well it looks like Cryptic made some progresses with season 7. They listened to feedback and took some decisions. Since dStahl promised us explicitely kdf episodes for season 8 I think the whole team will be committed into this.

It might not be what we expect since the rumors are that season 8 will have a pvp focus (something players play even less than their kdf chars), but let's wait and see.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,642
# 69
11-08-2012, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
Well it looks like Cryptic made some progresses with season 7. They listened to feedback and took some decisions. Since dStahl promised us explicitely kdf episodes for season 8 I think the whole team will be committed into this.

It might not be what we expect since the rumors are that season 8 will have a pvp focus (something players play even less than their kdf chars), but let's wait and see.
Why do they do that - how many KDF players would say - ok rip out PvP - expect for some arena or open areas - but finish out the KDF faction instead?

It's not like they have lots of Feds to fight - and with the new Rep system - less and less newbie's are going to want to PvP when the players there already have a grand canyon between them and getting wider with the rep system?

Unless they open up mixed Fed/Kdf teams - or in the future mixed Fed/Kdf/Rom teams - PvP is dead
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# 70
11-12-2012, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by burstdragon323 View Post
Supposedly, KDF will be getting an Overhaul in S8 with Lv 1 Stories, a Tutorial, etc. But I will believe it when I see it.
I stopped paying any heed to the empty words coming from any DEV pertaining to KDF content.

I?ve adopted the show me not tell me rule and I believe nothing that a DEV says until I?ve seen it for myself.
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