@bitemepwe: That?s what I thought, but it isn't what i found. Sorry.
Mike Miller, Dev. I want to have your children < Imagine the avatar with a sexy smile>! I love the new KDF content that much. < avatar winks>. I feel we owe you one for the good work.
Ok, how about some gourmet roasted coffee, whole bean fresh Kenyan?
@Queue83: I haven't had chance to get into the nitty gritty of torps yet. But i can tell you 5 +30% energy consoles are NOT adding +150% to the damage, not even close. Nor is the total skill bonus anywhere near what your suggesting, i haven't looked into the individual benefits of each skill but the total of the two is +50% of base damage, not +50% per skill.
I'm not saying your torp figures are wrong btw, just that there's clearly a diffrent system at work IMHO, though all my tests where done at lv50 so it's impossibble to factor out the possibble benfit of that. On the other hand i'm only intrested in how the base damage of an energy weapon, (so damage without consoles, @ 50 weapons power, and with nio skill effects), is affected by everything else, so how that base is calculated isn't so important. Though running quick math your thing about weapon mk and rarity may well explain the apparent console odditties since it would add a defuallt +100% to base damage, (approx, their was some small error margins on the percentages i got, but with
Here's my current corrected formulae to take account of my late night math errors when constructing it from the basic rules i'd established:
ok it does add what the exact %. but it is off the base base damage it might be a mk I but my math was off of the standard issue.
it is harder to test if you are not level 1 about get a standard issue beam array and any console you want. it will match very close. hover over the stauts menu to see. no matter what the console you pick will always add the same mount.
i have to do some shopping. so when my son takes a nap i will see what i can come up with.
my standard issue beam array was 102 then i add a 22.5% console and it went to 124.5
the math said it should be 124.95. but i am at level 50 so the base is more then like 100.
No problem having been asleep and having got more than 5 brain cells lined up your littile formulae makes sense.
TheB value in my formulae is bassiclly the base damage modified for Mk and Rariety. A Mk 10 once you knock skill and consoles off is just fractionally over +100% base damage with the lv50 modifier added in. This means the two skill benefits would appear to be +25% ech, not +50%, and the console base magnitudes would also appear to be halved. In fact when i use your exact math i get the exact return is should, (a 26.2% console was actually showing a 12.7% boost and skill points where 48.7% total but i put the variable down to statsital errors due to the small numbers involved, but if i account for the fractionally larger than base 100% modifer from Mk and rareity i can replicate exact numbers).
I'm still going to try and confirm it with some Mk12 whites though, just to be absolutly certain everything is working as we think. I also want to check each skill in turn as i've seen other data that's conflictoray about this. Also i want to know how tis interacts with my BO deductions. I suspect BO may actually be a +1200/1500/1700% base damage modifier but we need to confirm that.
For whoever asked earlier i think crits et all multiply the final output.
Consoles add a flat amount that doesn't care what the weapons actually damage is from mark or rarity, just the type. Simple way to test is to equip two weapons of the same type but different mark.
Test was done on toon with NO skill points invested at level 50 with no relevant accolades at 50 weapon power.
Mk 6 white tetryon beam array with 0 consoles gives 159.2 DPV, 2 consoles (52.4%) change damage to 211.7 DPV an change of 52.5 DPV
Mk 11 purple tetryon beam array with a single [Dmg] mod and two other mods with 0 consoles gives 222.7 DPV, 2 consoles (same as before) change damage to 275.2 DPV a change of.....52.5 DPV
Follow up test, 0 consoles, 50 weapon power, maxed tier 1 Weapon skill ONLY
Mk 6 white tetryon beam array deals 208.7 DPV, or 49.5 DPV increase
Mk 11 purple tetryon beam array deals 272.2 DPV, or a ..... 49.5 DPV increase
I don't pretend to know what they are a % of, nor do I care. But they only take into account the weapon type beam array/cannon/etc.
The actual DPV formula is pretty simple to my understanding but I do not pretend to know the details of how a weapon gets it's numbers from.
Weapon + Console Mod + Skill Mod = Base
Base * Power Mod * Damage Mod from abilities/accolades/etc = Raw DPV
Raw DPV * Enemy Resistance Mod = True DPV
What the Console Mod and Skill Mod are derived from I have no idea. It is a % of a number based on the weapon type and I'm guessing character level possibly. Skill Mod works the same way. What does this mean you ask?
Every single upgrade you gain, be it a better weapon or better console, has a negligible effect on your actual DPV because of how everything gets added together instead of multiplied.
This is also why Tac captain abilities are so insanely strong at increasing your DPS along with resistance debuffs like Attack Pattern Beta.
Console DPV mod is based on the damage a Mk 0 weapon would deal. IE to calculate the mod you would take the true base of the weapon type (a Mk 0) and multiply it by the mod.
Reason is simple, a base Mk 0 beam array would deal 98 DPV and the beam arrays are gaining about 52.5 DPV from a pair of consoles added together mod by 52.4%. If you take 98 * .524 you get 51.4 which is close enough for it to be a rounding error with the consoles having a bit more mod that is not shown.
I'm going to guess that skill bonus is the same. You do not really get the previously assumed 25% or anything like that. Instead I found the tier 1 skill adding 49.5 DPV to a beam array. Guess what 98 * .4995 is 48.9 and once again close enough for me.
*edit extra info*
In addition each tier for beam array adds 10.2 DPV.
Each Quality upgrade adds 2.5 DPV (IE 5 DPV if blue)
Each [Dmg] mod adds 5 DPV.
So revised formula for beam array DPV would look like this:
Base = 98 + (Mark * 10.2) + (Console * 98) + (Skill *98) + (Quality * 2.5) + (Dmg * 5)
Base * Modifiers * Power Mod = Displayed DPV
Should be pretty darn close for beam arrays. So lets say we have a fleet mark 12 beam array on a fleet defiant with 5 Mk 12 purple consoles maxed skills. Then we go at max weapon power with say a 10% boost from Epower to Weapons.
Base = 98 + 122.4 + 147 + 98 + 10 + 15 : 490.4 DPV
Displayed DPV = 490.4 * 2.5 * 1.1 : 1348.6 DPV
And we fire at a target with no shields and -30% resists for a DPV of 1753.
*edited did bad math with weapon power mod fixxed now*