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# 41
11-09-2012, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by crusty8mac View Post
I've been threatening to buy an Atrox and load it up with Nanubes, tractor mines, tractor beam, gravity well, eject warp plasma and every other hold I could fit on it. Then taking it into FvF and tractoring the hell out of everyone who whines about siphon drones.

If the cool down adjustment keeps me from being serial tractored, I may not.
ROFLMAO... They never even heard of the easiest and laziest counter of them all for siphon pods... Reverse engines + Torpedo Spread = Siphon Pods ESPLODE!
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# 42
11-09-2012, 11:08 AM
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How about giving them the Tractor Beam Mine tractor instead?

The one that slows you down a bit instead of stopping you dead in your tracks..
This is exactly what should have been done to fix the Danubes from day one.
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# 43
11-09-2012, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by paxottoman View Post
I love you.

Why can't Borticus be cool like you?

I also like how the cannons have been revised. They're worth it now.

-PaxOttomana of Turkish RP Heroes.
Not cool because he doesn't always listens to whinners (altough they often win here)?

With such comments, I know why some devs never come on the forums, even if they don't troll us.

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ROFLMAO... They never even heard of the easiest and laziest counter of them all for siphon pods... Reverse engines + Torpedo Spread = Siphon Pods ESPLODE!
Or: evasive maneuvers. Siphons are sloooow.
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# 44
11-09-2012, 11:12 AM
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Or: evasive maneuvers. Siphons are sloooow.
Yeah most things people use in this game that are whined over abilities sometimes are simply easily beaten by one skill alone or pure mastering the ship the captain chooses to use
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# 45
11-09-2012, 11:37 AM
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Actually, it's a nerf. I've never had a huge problem with them personally. They're not nearly as bad as siphon drones. It may sound like I'm Fed biased, but I play both sides with about 70% of my PvP being on my KDF toons. I always feel dirty when I team with siphon drone users.
They got a buff in Hull.
They now have as much hull or more than 6 of the Fed Cruisers, 13 of the Fed Science vessels and 10 of the fed Fed escorts.
Its ridiculus for a pet class to have that many hitpoints and if they where to reduce them to say half that amount it would solve alot of the Danubes issues since they would be alot easier to kill off in combat. As it is now they are as sturdy as any player vessel.

At least Siphon Drones are slated to be nerfed into being more balanced and easier to both resist and fight against in combat.
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# 46
11-09-2012, 11:54 AM
Danube Runabout carrier pets have the same HPs as a Bird of Prey carrier pet, and less than half the Shield HPs.

While I'm in favor of reviewing their overall effectiveness, I think it's important to keep comparisons like this in perspective.
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# 47
11-09-2012, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
We can't all be that lucky.
the up time reduction is a good start, now do something about the hitpoints. shields AND 20k hull

solution 1- cut the hull at least in half. i think the next most hit point heavy non frigate pet has no more then 5k health.

solution 2- with the hp they have, make then a frigate pet, thus only a dedicated carrier can use them, not flight deck ships

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Danube Runabout carrier pets have the same HPs as a Bird of Prey carrier pet, and less than half the Shield HPs.

While I'm in favor of reviewing their overall effectiveness, I think it's important to keep comparisons like this in perspective.
well, exactly! solution 2 then, they are a frigate that flight deck non carrier ships can use, thats not balanced. the orian flight deck ships cant use 20k hitpoint bops. bops only deal damage too, they arent the single most effective thing in game for controlling enemy movment.


a disposable uber movement controller that has so much hitpoints its pointless to even shot at them is a terrible game ruining experience for everyone. they should be tractor mines that move, thats it. or an actual frigate pet.
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# 48
11-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Also there is the fact that you launch 2 danubes at a time per hangar, with 4 being able to be out at the same time per hangar. This is twice as much danubes per hangar as BOP, but they get the same hull, how is that balanced.
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# 49
11-09-2012, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
solution 2- with the hp they have, make then a frigate pet, thus only a dedicated carrier can use them, not flight deck ships
Unfortunatly this will never ever happen. As I understand it, their new money maker the Vesta basically features runabouts as pets. Just imagine the outcry if people can't outfit their ugly little ship the same way as in some book.
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# 50
11-09-2012, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by borticuscryptic View Post
Danube Runabout carrier pets have the same HPs as a Bird of Prey carrier pet, and less than half the Shield HPs.

While I'm in favor of reviewing their overall effectiveness, I think it's important to keep comparisons like this in perspective.
Speaking of birds of prey any way we can get the kinetic cutter and omega heavy torp launcher and if we are limited to just 1 omega torp launcher on tribble?
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