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# 81
11-08-2012, 01:06 AM
looks like a lockbox fed ship full with hopes was slapped by a casual KDF bop.
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# 82
11-09-2012, 03:30 PM
you ppl thay say im just pissed and decided to make a form tell me this how can i in a lev 30 ship take out escorts and cruisers that are vice admirals huuu??
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# 83
11-09-2012, 03:33 PM
just so u know i never used lockboxes and never will i wont spend my time in that

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# 84
11-09-2012, 03:47 PM
I disagree mate!
Each faction has its own goods and cons. i have the multi vector escort on the fed side and the guranba on the klingon side and they are quite similar in power and mobility.maybe you should take a look at the duty officers you have and correct their buffs or in other hand use very rare bridge officers that will give you an edge in combat.my lately i have been playing with the klingon carrier and personaly i find it a bit overpowered but thats just me.with two pairs of birds of prey in the air i take out everything easy but i bet you could do the same if you buy the fed counterpart. the best ships are reserved for people that pay or spend lots of credits making a fleet tier 5.try to get the fleet escort version and see if gets any better...
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# 85
11-09-2012, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by vitzh View Post
For every "Klingon Side are OP" thread that appears on Klingon Gameplay, do you think we should make a thread "Feds are idiots" on Federation Gameplay and list the mistakes and reasons why they are failing?
Yes. Please. Then you can see players like certain cruiser posters whose names I shall not mention due to forum rules complain and say it's not true. And then players like me will read it, laugh at the idiots, and then try to apply what was stated into our gaming and get better.

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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
Or maybe the Feds are just frackin wimps.

If they are not complaining about the OP KDF, they are blaiming us for the poor quality of PvP in the FvK ques because some mean old Klingon has mined the spawn point or they whine about any number of percieved afront to thier mighty fandoms.

They only have excuse on why things suck and they themselves are never tallied in the share of blame for actions they themselves are just as guilty of committing.
Most of them are PvErs who go to PvP expecting to faceroll the KDF like they do in storyline and SB24. Shame they get their rears handed to them. NOT. Please, keep slapping feds around, I approve!

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Originally Posted by carcharodon1975 View Post
Oh boy,one of these threads.....a Fed rolling around on the floor having a temper tantrum like a 3 year old,because he can't kill the big bad Klingon with his overpriced toy.

It will never end,will it....


1. Fed goes up against Klingons and gets his behind handed to him.
2. Fed cries it's unfair that the KDF has 'X'.
3. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'X'.
4. Feds demand 'X'.
5. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'X'.
6. Fed 'X' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
7. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'X'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
8. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'Z' to counter the Feds new 'X'
9. Fed goes on the forums and whines and cries that Klingons are OP because of 'Z'.
10. Feds demand 'Z'.
11. Cryptic sees money in providing Feds with 'Z'.
12. Fed 'Z' hits the C-store,sales are through the roof.
13. Fed goes up against Klingons with their new 'Z'....and get beaten into a bloody pulp.
14. Fed cries it's unfair that Klingons used 'A' to counter the Feds new 'Z'.

.....rinse and repeat....

Did it ever occur to you that maybe,just maybe it's not the ship but the captain that makes the ship 'OP'?I think the problem is that you mistook the game's imbalance at lower levels as personal skill.
Personal Skill? What's that? (I rest my case)

I main my fed. I don't deny this, and I won't dispute anyone who claims it to be true. In all honesty I only made my klink for fun and because my fleetmates wouldn't stop bugging me about it.

And what I have determined is this. Klingons are OP. The klingons themselves, NOT THEIR SHIPS. The veteran captains who levelled their feds, and then made klinks and then used all that they learned to get better. I know this for a fact. My klink can probably wipe the floor with my fed. Not cuz of ships, but because of skills, and other things I applied AFTER learning.

My fed flies an Oddy. So it takes a while to kill him. I wish I could redo his traits, since he has a useless one, but you can't so that sucks, oh wells. But my klingon has all useful traits. Accurate, etc. And his skills are also much better for fighting. Granted I need to respec both of them since I am still learning, but at least I don't blame the other guy for my follies, only myself.

But I will say this. As ships go, Fleet Tor'Kaht is OP. Btw biteme, I bought it, flew it, and still haven't gotten out of it. That ship... freakin wet dream.
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# 86
11-09-2012, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
... Snip ...

But I will say this. As ships go, Fleet Tor'Kaht is OP. Btw biteme, I bought it, flew it, and still haven't gotten out of it. That ship... freakin wet dream.
KDF Vet ship is better, fyi.

But, let's be honest they're different playstyles too. Feds have better Sci ships, Repair Support Cruisers, and damage potential from their Escorts. This fits a balanced team which can control a small area.

KDF have better ability to pick when and for how long a fight will last. The better DPS Cruisers and BC in general work w/this. They have the ability to hit, withdraw, and strike again.

But, lotto ships have been power creeping past the general faction roles. Other power creep has been introduced as well (various rare doffs, dual proc weapons etc).

But, you're basic point is correct. The majority of Feds are casual players who aren't good nor interested in being good at PvP. But, the high end Feds and KDF PvPers seem about the same to me at this point lotto ships can easily set them apart though.
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# 87
11-09-2012, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
YKlingons are OP. The klingons themselves, NOT THEIR SHIPS. The veteran captains who levelled their feds, and then made klinks and then used all that they learned to get better. I know this for a fact. My klink can probably wipe the floor with my fed. Not cuz of ships, but because of skills, and other things I applied AFTER learning.
Again word of Overpowered, it ain't right word to use - Feds can't accept that the majority of KDF players are heavily experienced veterans at this game that know how to fit, skill and spec a toon; in short its a mix of arrogance and ignorance.

Anyway I seem to be getting strong support for a "Feds are Idiots Thread" So anyone that has got constructive criticism or feedback of what feds do wrong please pm it to me. I'll create a list of notes. I know arrogance is a strong one that I'm going to use.

Also in response to pvp - you should see what happens to pvp queues after a KDF premade appears at commander level. Hell should see what happens to a warzone like Kerrat when a whole squadron of KDF who are not fed alts in BOPs but fully loaded and armed for combat in Battlecruisers at commander/captain level. Within one round the whole area is fed free. They just don't expect people who know how to fight or use their ships and skills. (hint to those who may have faced me in Kerrat, spamming all your heals and buffs at once just makes it easier for me to kill you) Actually in short, if you learn to pvp in this game, you WILL become a better player overall.

Also forgot to mention, the original poster is so obviously trolling it ain't funny. Why aren't these sort of threads locked immediately?

Last edited by vitzh; 11-09-2012 at 06:16 PM.
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# 88
11-09-2012, 06:32 PM
Its true it has to do with experience. I was just in a arena flying a slow boat Bor'tas, the prototype one. Could hardly move started the match outnumbered, and we still whooped the feds behind. It was simple I helped heal the faster moving ships. We concentrated our firepower on there cruiser, which by the way their escorts were not going out of their way to help, once the cruiser was down we took out the pests known as escorts. We did not completely smash them but we did win. We won by team work, focusing firepower, and understanding that you cant destroy the small ships until the cruisers are out of the way.

Oh and that Feds guide on Galaxy x class starships proved useful with my Bortas lol.
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# 89
11-09-2012, 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vitzh View Post
Again word of Overpowered, it ain't right word to use - Feds can't accept that the majority of KDF players are heavily experienced veterans at this game that know how to fit, skill and spec a toon; in short its a mix of arrogance and ignorance.

Anyway I seem to be getting strong support for a "Feds are Idiots Thread" So anyone that has got constructive criticism or feedback of what feds do wrong please pm it to me. I'll create a list of notes. I know arrogance is a strong one that I'm going to use.

Also in response to pvp - you should see what happens to pvp queues after a KDF premade appears at commander level. Hell should see what happens to a warzone like Kerrat when a whole squadron of KDF who are not fed alts in BOPs but fully loaded and armed for combat in Battlecruisers at commander/captain level. Within one round the whole area is fed free. They just don't expect people who know how to fight or use their ships and skills. (hint to those who may have faced me in Kerrat, spamming all your heals and buffs at once just makes it easier for me to kill you) Actually in short, if you learn to pvp in this game, you WILL become a better player overall.

Also forgot to mention, the original poster is so obviously trolling it ain't funny. Why aren't these sort of threads locked immediately?
Hiding that last line at the end with the color black? nice touch. I would suggest you don't go through with your thread idea - becasue that will definitely be tagged by the mods as trolling/flaming and will be shut down + you many get a warning as well - trust me I know these things from experience
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# 90
11-09-2012, 08:12 PM
By the middle moQ of Kahless, I cant believe this thread is still live.
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