Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 101
11-10-2012, 08:18 AM
Craig Zinkievich linked this on his Twitter

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...f-free-to-play

LOL Craig not realizing STO is one of the greedy MMOs that chew you up and spit you out if you arent a true Trekkie at heart. He thinks STO is the good guy in that article? Keep drinking your own KoolAid Craig.

Having said that, I think STO has made it too easy to play the game for free, so I begrudgingly understand the dilithium squeeze. You all want to get free zen off the wallets of guys like me. Dilithium has way too much purchasing power right now, and I havnt put Zen into the system for months. Last I did it I got 320+ dil per Zen and Ive been sitting on 300k dil for months. It will get used up now with S7 looks like.

STO has burned through the suckers after ripping them on Lockboxes. Too many good games out now, and freepers milking zen off the rich, Cryptic has to reduce dilithium availability because they can see their supply of rich whales is decreasing. They killed all their big whales too soon.

Now the way for them to make money is get real money per player for their Zen, and reduce the super freeloaders. If they want to survive, they have no choice but to start making money more honestly and straightforward with less deception of lockboxes. They think they cant live without lockboxes. I say unto them, you will burn through Americas supply of whales faster when you lockbox them to death. They have no strategy to spread their income over the long run. They are totally living off the IP name right now.

The way to play this game is as I do. Silver account, buy the occasional ship (Ive only bought two $25 and only one mega ship pack $50 for the Vesta line. Ive bought a few vanity items here and there and thats it. I refuse to let the game play me for my wallet and time. Being a frugal STO player/ buyer is the only way to go now. Im using my buying habits to force them into making regular things I want to buy at fair prices non lockbox prices. I had another thread showing them how. I could turn STO around without zero EP experience just buy going for an honest pricing model that doesnt chew you up and spit you out in 3 months or less. But if they want to live by the quick greed they can die a quicker death. The US is NOT China. I dont doubt they are trying to kill STO because thry are realizing STO is too American and the Chinese sucker model wont work here.
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Last edited by doubleohnine; 11-10-2012 at 10:30 AM.
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# 102
11-10-2012, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sophlogimo View Post
Well, play KDF then! It is, by the way, also a fun game experience.
I wonder if this is there way to get people to play KDF more.
Lieutenant
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# 103
11-10-2012, 08:59 AM
And the point of it all in a message to the devs .... "this will spiral out of control fast.

Nicely put genhauk.

The spiralling has reached critical levels already and maybe the tipping point for player versus IP loyalty has already been reached.

This may bruise some ego's but hey ho it needs saying again.

Sorry to break it too you all at cryptic/PWE it is loyalty to the IP that's got you so far.
While i will be the first to admit I do like a lot of what you have done game and mission wise but with out the love of the IP.

STO will be venting atmosphere with a large chunk of your player base grabbing an escape pod destined for another galaxy far far away.

Or putting underwear over spandex tights and kicking doctor dooms butt.

This is no bull but a lot and I do mean a lot of people I talk to in game have lost the love the way things are going.

It beggars belief as there is a lot to like in S7 missions are fun and look great in the main.

Then they nerf the dil increase the grind of the game beyond enjoyment and think its all going to be fine.

I really hope someone there stops singing the lalalala,lalalala,lalalala,lalalala song and actually looks at what's going on and takes steps to plug the damage before its too late for STO.
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# 104
11-10-2012, 09:12 AM
...

I'm not so much angry and disappointed about this as I am just humored at the baffling stupidity behind this change. Honestly, I'd rather just point and laugh and Cryptic at this point rather than spew venom.

*points and laughs at Cryptic* BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Survivor of Romulus
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# 105
11-10-2012, 09:32 AM
Words cannot express how much I hate you and your campaign levi3.

Ok in all seriousness, I do not have the time nor the inclination to spend 30 minutes to an hour on someone's foundry mission so I can get the MINIMUM dil I need to still gain enjoyment of this game. Asking for or praising PWE for removing such conveniences only hurts YOU in the end as the players that will be left are not the players that may love this game the most.

This will just serve to be yet one more coffin in making me play this game less and less to the point of just uninstalling. TOR is calling me....
Survivor of Romulus
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# 106
11-10-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by doubleohnine View Post

STO has burned through the suckers after ripping them on Lockboxes. Too many good games out now, and freepers milking zen off the rich, Cryptic has to reduce dilithium availability because they can see their supply of rich whales is decreasing. They killed all their big whales too soon.

Now the way for them to make money is get real $ for their Zen, not freeloaders. If they want to survive, they have no choice but to start making money more honestly and straightforward with less deception of lockboxes. They think they cant live without lockboxes. I say unto them, you will burn through Americas supply of whales faster when you lockbox them to death. They have no strategy to spread their income over the long run. They are totally living off the IP name right now.
THIS. So much THIS. I was thinking the same thing on the way to work.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,642
This is what I can do on my KDF toons:

Pi Canis Sortie Alpha
Pi Canis Sortie Brovo
Good luck charms
Good day to die - space
Ship killer - Starfleet
Captain Killer - Klingon
Most Dangerous Ground - space
Turret Killer
Claiming Enemy Emergency reserves

Plus a few other PvP

The great news is that 4 of those can be done at the same time in Ker'rat

Hopefully they leave the KDF with such a huge advantage over the Feds as far as getting dilthium - the KDF will be getting even more of the new powerfull gear even faster!

Last edited by levi3; 11-10-2012 at 10:37 AM.
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# 108
11-10-2012, 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lianthelia View Post
I wonder if this is there way to get people to play KDF more.
I was thinking the same thing. It is such a lazy way to get people to play the KDF though... it is pretty much forcing people to play as KDF, it would be better to have people want to play as the KDF for their own reasons, not because it is the only way a fed player can gain a little extra dilithium.
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# 109
11-10-2012, 10:08 AM
I have 4 mains, Fed- Tac/Sci/Eng and Kling- Tac. All of my 16 alts are Klings and there is an easy way to circumvent the removal of the 1440 officer reports quickie mission.

In fact, the time difference is pretty much a wash since anybody using Klingon alts at the Academy is usually doing DOFF related chores that are going to be gone with S7.

If Cryptic's intent was to slow down players/power farmers from generating dilithium quickly then this update is not going to accomplish much except create an even bigger gap between hard-core & casual players.
Captain
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# 110
11-10-2012, 10:20 AM
I think the other funny side effect will be just how low the cost of zen for some dil will go. You just burned so much of the farming that was injecting the dil into the system with the report nerf, along with casuals, and the B'tran thing while at the same time removing more of it from the game with the rep grind along with the current fleet grind.

80 dil for zen in about 2 months at this rate. Good for me as I'm already geared up but bad for the true casual and cryptic's pocketbook I would wager.
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