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# 1131
11-09-2012, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ferdzso0 View Post
totally not op, working as intended!
Lol. I know for a fact that first hit from an iso does about 45k if you aren't running any defensive consoles. So the way I figure it (and based on what his ship was doing) is that he wasn't running any defensive consoles, so him dying makes perfect sense to me.

Tbh, that was just a terrible run.
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# 1132
11-09-2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickngo View Post
I have begun to get deep feelings of dread when I PuG certain missions-especially Cure and Khitomer, and I see 3 or more Feds in the line up.

Even when I am, myself, playing my fedside alts.

it's called, "How in HELL am I drawing Aggro off the Feddie Cruiser? I'm in a BIRD OF PREY with NO C-store consoles, NO threat control, No weapons console better than MkXI blue, running DISRUPTORS!!!"

On fedside, playing my Tac in an Advanced Escort, it's usually more "Jesus, people, have you ever heard of fixing your injuries??" (I don't actually SAY that-no reason to spew venom on the channel, and my fingers have better things to be doing-like killing Probes.)
I play a fed fleet patrol escort, so i know the feeling, I did one stf earlier and one player who I shall name mr comatose spend the whole game dead.
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# 1133
11-09-2012, 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jake81499 View Post
Have no fear...

You will....

You will......

I have now, when will pugs learn, HAVE ONE TYPE OF WEAPON!!!!!!!

On my Fleet Patrol Escort, I run nothing but Plasma weapons, in fact my whole build is based my use of Plasma weapons. All my tactical consoles are geared towards my weapon type,so are 2 of my engineering consoles. I've count damage markers of between 800-1200 damage markers from my dual heavy plasma cannons alone, my torps have even scored hits of 6k and a heavy plasma torp registering 16k of damage.

If you build a ship right, you should have no problems.
I also run the full borg set on it
Captain
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# 1134
11-09-2012, 05:46 PM
Quote:
my torps have even scored hits of 6k and a heavy plasma torp registering 16k of damage.
lol, i've seen 40K from mine, but my sci is a torp boat so, yeah.
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# 1135
11-09-2012, 07:21 PM
Time for my own little CSE PuGging story - this one with a happier ending than most

Most of the time I hang out on the PublicEliteSTF channel but once in a while, when it's slow I PuG a game or two - usually KAGE or ISE 'cause they're pretty straightforward even for the most horrible teams but for some masochistic reason, this time I found myself in Cure.

I arrive in my Tac/Chimera to be greeted by a Tac/Escort, a Regent, and Oddy and a Sovvy. Hmm... OK...

No discussion whatsoever in chat so I do what I usually do in these scenarios, hang back and wait to see who does what.

Tac/Escort heads straight for the middle cube and starts blasting probes - 'OK...' thinks I - 'maybe this guy knows MRRMLL'

Looking at the cruisers, they all veer off to the left - something that nobody that 'knows' CSE ever does - it's either right (if you're inexperienced - or very experienced) or middle if you know the drill.

At this point there's no one on Kang and my instincts are that even if the cruisers were, they wouldn't be able to defend it. Tac/Escort looks confident doing what he's doing so I take a gamble and head right - take out the BoPs and start on the probes.

Cruiser group meanwhile is getting nowhere - they're sitting at maximum range from the cube ineffectively tickling it with a rainbow of colors and occasionally taking their frustration out on the BoPs as they appear. Every so often one of them pops and disappears to respawn limbo. One in particular has 12 or so damaged systems *sigh*

So I finish the probes, take out the BoPs, the Neg, the Raptor and shoot a /t to Tac/Escort: "If I blow this cube, can you handle the Raptors your side?" - "np" comes the response so I take a deep breath, die once (damn one-shots) and blow the cube.

Two things happen - Tac/Escort - good to his word chains all his Tac buffs and starts nuking his Raptors. At the same moment all three cruisers disappear to respawn limbo *pop!* gone.

I hightail it over to the middle cube as Tac/Escort's got it down to around 10% and help finish it off before he pops Evasive and I burn some Deuterium to get to the left cube. Cruiser group hasn't respawned yet.

Between the two of us we bury the Negs and start dismantling the probes (they're all still there - the cruisers hadn't gotten a single one) - probes, Neg, Raptor, probes. By this time the cruisers are back but each time something spawns (the Neg, the Raptor) they're just as quickly gone again.

With the last spawn of Negs, me and Tac/Escort open fire on the cube - it's gone in seconds and I Evasive back to the Kang whilst he opens fire on the Negs from behind. In front I see cruisers exploding. Again.

Kang warps out and I head back to see two Negs remaining - one heavily damaged - it doesn't take long to finish them. The assimilated cruiser spawns and Tac/Escort and myself juggle aggro back and forth for a minute I guess until it explodes.

Cruiser group warps out immediately without saying a word as I type my customary (for 'challenging' stfs) 'thx everyone' in Zone chat. Once they'd left I chatted a bit with Tac/Escort about how it was a miracle that things didn't go completely pear-shaped.

Best part? We got the optional
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Last edited by weylandjuarez; 11-09-2012 at 07:27 PM.
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# 1136
11-10-2012, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by theraven2378 View Post
I've count damage markers of between 800-1200 damage markers from my dual heavy plasma cannons alone, my torps have even scored hits of 6k and a heavy plasma torp registering 16k of damage.
You might want to go check this thread and read it from the beginning.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=244532

If I get under 2000 off my DHC's once the shields are down then I check to make sure I don't have the weapons set on stun. As for the torp, 20 to 40k is pretty much normal.

I may repost my latest build on there today if I have time.



Edit;

I posted my build.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...&postcount=755

Enjoy!

Last edited by jake81499; 11-10-2012 at 02:56 AM.
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# 1137
11-11-2012, 03:51 PM
Ugh. KASE run on my sci alt in a fleet recon sv. First time I've ever put an entire team on ignore, not so much for being bad (although it certainly was a contributing factor in one case) but for more effort being put into talking trash than actually playing the game.

Let me just preface this with a claim you all are probably going to find quite dubious: I can top this thing out at around 4000 dps (with tbr, but not abusing its bugged state, I refuse to screw my build's survivability up to accomplish that), which should be more than adequate for a sci ship. So I consider it the first sign I'm going to have a bad day when I top out the dps chart on a team that has an escort (or several, as was the case here) on it. A team of all cruisers or cruisers and sci ships? Not a surprise, most cruisers can survive a hell of a lot more than I can, but sacrifice damage output to do it, and most other sci's I pug with simply have no idea wth they're doing). But escorts? Escorts should get 4000 minimum, not <1100 and having trouble killing probes. So yeah, that was the second sign of an impending disaster.

There is no third sign of impending disaster in this one.

Optional is failed after about ten minutes (which is about how long it takes me to grind down the right transformers and gateway; key to grinding down the gateway solo in the time it takes a team of idiots to get one transformer down: fly underneath and park straight and level at a distance of about 1.7-2k, and you can get all beam arrays and torp launchers firing at it, with no dmg range falloff, nor will you get shot at if you have aggro), and so I call out the escort on probe duty (using antiproton dhc's, antiproton turrets and quantums, so I see nothing inherently wrong with his build, although tbqh we'd have been better off if he were an afker) for it, which sets the whole rest of the team off. Massive trash talking ensues, and five more probes make it past them (while I'm killing probes the fail escort is having trouble with) as they park outside firing range of the remaining gateway.

It takes the team another two minutes to grind down the gateway (seems the trend for idiots these days is sitting pretty, facing a target with dual beam banks and letting half one's dps potential go to waste) while they spend that time talking trash while I'm off killing probes just to keep things from failing altogether.

Donatra fight was fun though, simply due to how hilariously inept that team was both at tanking the torpedo spreads/salvos and how uninclined they were to stop talking trash, even while facing down thalaron beams and sitting still, mashing out poorly-typed third-grade insults in team chat. Just took forever. I saved their bacon several times *while* they were talking trash due to judicious use of tractor beam repulsors, while spreading heals around (hey, i'm a sci, what the hell else am I gonna do? sit back and watch? I was sorely tempted to!). Knocking Donatra around seemed to egg them on further, I guess they liked getting killed cuz they only seemed to get really annoyed when I'd keep Donatra from wiping them out.

*shrugs*

So yeah, a team of trolls, and one minmaxer in a science vessel taking the brunt of the team's abuse for *gasp* actually knowing how to play the game.

-- Lyra@PyrionCelendil, if anyone wants to friend me (this is my sci alt; Nylith@PyrionCelendil is my main) for STF runs, build advice or whatever else.
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# 1138
11-11-2012, 04:12 PM
It occurs to me that you might have started this whole disaster.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nanomorph View Post
... and so I call out the escort on probe duty (using antiproton dhc's, antiproton turrets and quantums, so I see nothing inherently wrong with his build, although tbqh we'd have been better off if he were an afker) for it, which sets the whole rest of the team off. Massive trash talking ensues...
As for the team not being able to handle Donatra easily, they did something with her AI that made her even actually nasty to fight.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
Tired of Wasting EC and Time trying to get Superior Romulan Operative BOffs? Here's a cheap and easy way to get them, with an almost 100% chance of success.
Why the Devs can't make PvE content harder.
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# 1139
11-11-2012, 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
It occurs to me that you might have started this whole disaster.
Nah, I just lampshaded it. The disaster happened before I said anything.
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# 1140
11-11-2012, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lordmalak1 View Post
Guess I'm not the only one with this story. C'ept I'm running phasers on my raptor while the feds got AP and all the agro is after me.

Must be a klink thing.
I'm starting to believe it must be.
Borg fear our names, lol.

funny one for ya-Cure Space, Elite, I'm driving my Heggie, got a Defiant-R or Fleet (honestly couldn't tell), some kind of Sci, an Atrox, and a big ole' Oddy.

FedScort's sorting probes with CSV from a reasonable distance, and I'm lining up for a run at the BoPs that just walked past him, when the cube, which has not fired a shot so far, hits me wth the shield-draining beam and starts pumping torps and green death at me...

and I haven't fired a single shot yet.

all I did, was decloak.


The whole run went like that, I must've gone through half a 20 pack of repair parts because the AI apparently HATES me, on a personal level, lol.
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