Captain
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# 1 Ambassador Class Thoughts
11-12-2012, 10:14 AM
Let me just say that at first I had absolute zero interest in seeing the Ambassador class in the game. From what I saw of it in Yesterdays Enterprise it didn't really look asthetically pleasing.

However my opinion on this changed a few days ago once I saw the USS Zhukov model, which looked pretty damn lovely.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File...udio_model.jpg

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File..._Christies.jpg

I certainly prefer it to the Galaxy class.

While this ship is classed as a cruiser (like the Akira and Intrepid are in the show), I think it'd be good as another entry in the destroyer class. It's size and rather stocky build seems fitting for it.

Here's what I'd like it to be...

Ambassador-class
Type: Destroyer

Baseline Stats

Fore weapons: 4 (Can equip dual/dual-heavy cannons)
Aft Weapons: 3

3 Engineering console slots
3 Science console slots
3 Tactical console slots

Impulse modifier: 0.2
Hullstrength: 33000
Shield modifier: 1
Base turnrate: 14
Device slots: 3
Crew: 550
Power bonus: +10 Weapons

1 Cmdr Tactical
1 Lt Tactical
1 Lt Cmdr Engineering
1 Ensign Universal
1 Lt Universal

Tactical Variant

+1 Tactical console
+5 weapon power
+5 shield power

Science Variant

+1 Science console
+10 Aux power
NO sensor analysis

Engineering Variant

+1 Engineering console
+10 Engine power





Anyone got their own thoughts on it?
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# 2
11-12-2012, 10:40 AM
When Cryptic and CBS held the "Design the next Enterprise" contest CBS made it clear that as a ship that held the name U.S.S. Enterprise, it must be a cruiser.
This would also apply to the Ambassador class so she can't be a destroyer.
Rihannsu
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# 3
11-12-2012, 10:45 AM
>Ambassador
>Destroyer
>14 turn rate

Ha ha... ha.

No.

Expect a generic cruiser, probably a bit more manuverable than the Galaxy, but with less HP. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd give it lt.cmdr. universal boff station.

Just wait till the STO 3rd anniversary. It's pressumably going to be featured in some special event mission then.
Ensign
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# 4
11-12-2012, 10:48 AM
To be honest I want it in game as realistically its the only big time TNG/DS9 ship we have left to see in game (and by big time I mean a ship that was featured in more than one episode) as we have had the miranda, obeth and Nebula.

Really there is just too much history not to see it in game, it was an enterprise and this class of ship is the one that Sela (whatever Iconians have done with her) mother served upon before she was taken to Romulas.

However for me I want it to be an uber rare reward, a ship which you get in a lottery.

I want there to be an event where star fleet says due to the further stretching of Starfleet due to the new Breen and Tholian incursions they are looking to bring back and rekit older ships from mothballs and there is a limited number of Ambasador class ships they are doing it with, litrally in the tens, you then have to do an event which gets you placed in the lottery for an ambasador ship and its drawn fropm that.

And then thats it, later on you starfleet might release a new class of ship which is based on the ambasador class (much the same way the stargazer is the update of constelation class) however there would only ever be a very, very limited number of Ambasador class ships in game and getting one would be seen as special
Captain
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# 5
11-12-2012, 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterde3 View Post
When Cryptic and CBS held the "Design the next Enterprise" contest CBS made it clear that as a ship that held the name U.S.S. Enterprise, it must be a cruiser.
This would also apply to the Ambassador class so she can't be a destroyer.
Ah well, not interested in it then. Cruisers in this game aren't worth a dime, unless you're playing a healer in PvP or No win scenario.
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# 6
11-12-2012, 11:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattyp448 View Post
To be honest I want it in game as realistically its the only big time TNG/DS9 ship we have left to see in game (and by big time I mean a ship that was featured in more than one episode) as we have had the miranda, obeth and Nebula.

Really there is just too much history not to see it in game, it was an enterprise and this class of ship is the one that Sela (whatever Iconians have done with her) mother served upon before she was taken to Romulas.

However for me I want it to be an uber rare reward, a ship which you get in a lottery.

I want there to be an event where star fleet says due to the further stretching of Starfleet due to the new Breen and Tholian incursions they are looking to bring back and rekit older ships from mothballs and there is a limited number of Ambasador class ships they are doing it with, litrally in the tens, you then have to do an event which gets you placed in the lottery for an ambasador ship and its drawn fropm that.

And then thats it, later on you starfleet might release a new class of ship which is based on the ambasador class (much the same way the stargazer is the update of constelation class) however there would only ever be a very, very limited number of Ambasador class ships in game and getting one would be seen as special
Whew, I'm glad you are not a DEV. I would be hella ticked off if they released the Ambassador Class as some ultra rare uber ship. I have been playning this game since the begining and was disapointed when they didn't bring it in as a tier 4 or 5 ship after the ugly Excelsior. I have been saving all my zen and dill, for when they released this thing and have been skipping all these new ships that come out. We have enough problems with uber ships coming through lock box now and in Season 7 they will midigate that. The random lottery of gear has proven to be to flawed for some players stay on the loosing end of luck. I would hate for them to put ships on the stupid lottery when gear will no longer be on lottery and you will get what you earned through reputation, instead.
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# 7
11-12-2012, 05:03 PM
Even the lockbox ships aren't that rare. Anyone who wants one can get their hands on one, quite frankly.

And I can understand the desire to at least put a limit on the influx of some ships. CBS seems to have issues and the use of some kind of pseudo-gambling device is probably the best way to distribute them.

That said, I don't imagine it's hugely likely for the Ambassador. Especially if they don't release it as a T5+ ship. They could release it as a T3-T4 (or even basic T5 ship) and then release a Fleet version.
Captain
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# 8
11-12-2012, 08:15 PM
I'd bet on it being a fleet ship that is effectivlly a fleet regent.

i.e. completly unintresting.
Captain
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# 9
11-12-2012, 08:20 PM
Tbh I don't understand the obsession with an antiquated and quite honestly an ugly ship-class that only appeared in 2 episodes, both of which it was destroyed in (or in the case of the alternate reality, it was implied that it was destroyed).

Of course I am also not a fan of the Excelsior, but since that one has made an appearance, I suppose this one could be brought in. But I don't see why it would.
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Captain
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# 10
11-12-2012, 09:42 PM
Actually i'm pretty sure there where a fair few in the background of a number of DS9 big battle episodes. It just never got an episode focused on one in DS9.
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