Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 1 SURPRISE!!! New season!
11-13-2012, 06:46 PM
I have heard so... SOOOO much whining about the new season "stealing" stuff and changing the dilithium requirements, and how new sets work and how the Omega system works. It's almost like these people were surprised by what was happening in the season. I literally saw a thread where someone was demanding that Cryptic return their EDCs and Remen datalogs.

Guess what? It's not going back, and you had plenty of warning.

The Devs have been more than transparent with the Season update, even allowing us to play around with it on Tribble for the past three weeks. There have been Dev blogs going back the past six weeks discussing every new feature in this season update. And there have been more than enough threads picking apart every single tweak in the game. The Tribble patch notes have spelled out every detail of the every system that is to be changed in game.

In short, It is WAY too late to complain about it. Get use to it, the new game is here.
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# 2
11-13-2012, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kyeto13 View Post
I have heard so... SOOOO much whining about the new season "stealing" stuff and changing the dilithium requirements, and how new sets work and how the Omega system works. It's almost like these people were surprised by what was happening in the season. I literally saw a thread where someone was demanding that Cryptic return their EDCs and Remen datalogs.

Guess what? It's not going back, and you had plenty of warning.

The Devs have been more than transparent with the Season update, even allowing us to play around with it on Tribble for the past three weeks. There have been Dev blogs going back the past six weeks discussing every new feature in this season update. And there have been more than enough threads picking apart every single tweak in the game. The Tribble patch notes have spelled out every detail of the every system that is to be changed in game.

In short, It is WAY too late to complain about it. Get use to it, the new game is here.

I...don't get it.

Are you expecting the nebulous horde of angry posters you're yelling about to pause, read this and say 'Oh. Oh you're right, I guess I'll shut up now'? Or are you just baiting angry counter-arguments?

No insult intended, I'm sure you have your reasons which are apparent to you. I just wonder what constructive reaction you expect to come out of this thread from that original post, especially when railing against deconstructive posts.

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# 3
11-13-2012, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kyeto13 View Post
It is WAY too late to complain about it.
Your argument has non-zero merit only if there was exactly no complaints during the long weeks of testing.
Career Officer
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# 4
11-13-2012, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kyeto13 View Post
I have heard so... SOOOO much whining about...
Whining about everything is as integral to MMOs as grinding.
Sometimes I think I play STO just to have stuff to rant about on the forums!

Captain
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# 5
11-14-2012, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nikkyvix View Post
I...don't get it.

Are you expecting the nebulous horde of angry posters you're yelling about to pause, read this and say 'Oh. Oh you're right, I guess I'll shut up now'? Or are you just baiting angry counter-arguments?

No insult intended, I'm sure you have your reasons which are apparent to you. I just wonder what constructive reaction you expect to come out of this thread from that original post, especially when railing against deconstructive posts.
Nothing in particular. Just venting to the masses and possibly troll baiting to be completely honest. I just think it's stupid and a half that everyone is complaining at it NOW...
Ensign
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# 6
11-14-2012, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by kyeto13 View Post
Nothing in particular. Just venting to the masses and possibly troll baiting to be completely honest. I just think it's stupid and a half that everyone is complaining at it NOW...
People are complaining at it now because we were, literally, lied to.

We were promised that STFs would still reward *some* dilithium (940 for elites, 480 for normals), just not as much as before.

But as soon as S7 is done with tribble testing? Surprise! You get NO Dilithium for STFs, now! and it's apparently not a bug, but completely intentional!

But, of course, you still need dilithium for lots of the new fleet stuff!

No-one's angry abut changes that were actually announced, despite what you seem to think, people are angry about changes that weren't announced, and flat-out contradict what the Mods said the changes would be.

But hey, why bother looking at what people are actually complaining about, when you can do what you did, and pretend you know the whole gorram situation and start on a stupid little "I'm better then everyone else, they're just a bunch of whiners" ego-stroking?
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Nov 2012
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# 7
11-14-2012, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kyeto13 View Post
Guess what? It's not going back, and you had plenty of warning.
What we knew about, we DID complain about. Guess what? It didn't help!

And anyhow, we were told that "oh this is just on tribble, it will change when it goes live".

So face it, we had virtually no warning. What little warning we had and protested to, was to no avail.

And the result? I've talked to more people I know packing up and leaving over the last 24 hours, than I've heard over the last year. I'm still here myself, at least until I have tried out the new content. But if things do not change, I doubt I'll be around more than a month...

Well played Cryptic... well...played...
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# 8
11-14-2012, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pvehero View Post
What we knew about, we DID complain about. Guess what? It didn't help!

And anyhow, we were told that "oh this is just on tribble, it will change when it goes live".

So face it, we had virtually no warning. What little warning we had and protested to, was to no avail.

And the result? I've talked to more people I know packing up and leaving over the last 24 hours, than I've heard over the last year. I'm still here myself, at least until I have tried out the new content. But if things do not change, I doubt I'll be around more than a month...

Well played Cryptic... well...played...
I remember when Cryptic pushed this on the player base in CoH.


In 2007 a significant gameplay change called "Enhancement Diversification", or ED, was implemented in Issue 6. ED received strong negative feedback from the player community. The response thread to ED on the official City of Heroes message forum exceeded 3,500 replies in the first 36 hours, and soon after grew so large that a second thread was required due to forum software limits.

ED imposed a point of sharply diminished returns on how far each individual aspect of each power could be improved. Prior to ED, a player could focus all enhancements on only one of a power's aspects and receive fully cumulative benefits. Cryptic's stated reason behind ED was "to promote the use of more different types of Enhancements in powers".

Critics derided ED for its universal reduction of the maximum possible effectiveness of all characters, making it a global nerf, that many defensive powers had now been significantly weakened for two Issues in a row, frustrating especially those who specialize in such powers and invalidated many of their existing tactics; that some powers cannot legally or usefully accept more than one type of Enhancement and thus cannot be "diversified"; that it was deceitful to enact such a severe change less than a month after official Jack Emmert announcing "we?ve finished making large changes to the power sets" and that ED was too fundamental a change to implement so long after the original launch.

Some, but not all, of the negative effects of Enhancement Diversification were negated with the release of the Invention system in Issue 9, allowing players to create one enhancement that affects multiple statistics at once with bonuses for a full set that would affect global (across all powers) statistics thus allowing powers to increase a given statistic beyond the point of diminishing returns, while still honoring the limits created with ED during Issue 6.
Ensign
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# 9
11-14-2012, 09:46 AM
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In short, It is WAY too late to complain about it. Get use to it, the new game is here.[/QUOTE]
Have fun playing in your own little Perfect World, BY YOURSELF!.........You tool.

You and the Devs can play your broken game I'm moving on to EVE online, MWO or somewhere else.

Star Citizen looks really promising......mostly because PWE or some other publisher is not involved.

And yes complaining is usefull, if enough people (minus the tools such as yourself) do it they may catch a clue.
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# 10
11-14-2012, 09:50 AM
Quote:
originally Posted By Kyeto13
It Is Way Too Late To Complain About It.
I'm Pissed That Cryptic Didn't Give Us Fair Warning On When The Time Limit On Complaining Was Going To Expire....


Gggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Cryptic!!! :p
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