Lieutenant
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 59
Seriously.. You stole all my borg salvage, locked it in a box I cant open till I've spent millions in EC trying to reach T3 for Omega? Freaking BS, that is such an insult. The Reputation missions are going to end up costing me weeks and weeks of casual play to regain where I was. With no dilithium drops, no random loot drops, no bonus drops in the missions, you have effectively cramped everyones play. Congratz.

You can not continue on this path of adding ever more bells and whistles, changing the game economy and style of play in every new season, and expect the player base to enjoy the game as they once did.

I absolutely hate the new reputation system, and even more so how it was implemented. We the players just get screwed over again and again. Tiered unlock systems are a scam, forcing players to buy zen and play in ways they dont want to.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 933
# 2
11-14-2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sensorghost View Post

I absolutely hate the new reputation system, and even more so how it was implemented. We the players just get screwed over again and again. Tiered unlock systems are a scam, forcing players to buy zen and play in ways they dont want to.
Dont understand how the rep system forces us to buy zen? i thought the dilithium reqs were removed, they were tiny to begin with on tribble if i remeber regardless,...

besides, its not 'FORCING', you dont even have to look at the reputation system, if you want new fangled abilities/passive bonuses you can, if you dont.. then you dont :p

Dont think PWE/Cryptic is holdling a phaser to our heads :p
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 841
# 3
11-14-2012, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by elandarksky View Post
Dont understand how the rep system forces us to buy zen? i thought the dilithium reqs were removed, they were tiny to begin with on tribble if i remeber regardless,...

besides, its not 'FORCING', you dont even have to look at the reputation system, if you want new fangled abilities/passive bonuses you can, if you dont.. then you dont :p

Dont think PWE/Cryptic is holdling a phaser to our heads :p
You need Dilithium to buy the weapons. I heard that there are no space weapons in the store :/ Cant even confirm as we cant see it.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 59
# 4
11-14-2012, 08:39 AM
I was peachy till this change. Nothing about it has improved my game experience. Nothing about it has expanded my play in any significant manner. All I see are new ways for the game to eat resources out of my pocket to REGAIN access to stuff I previously already had access to.

That is the definition of a Fraud

As for Zen/Dil connection.. If you can only grind Dil from content you hate to do, you only other recourse is to buy it with Zen.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 37
# 5
11-14-2012, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by elandarksky View Post
Dont understand how the rep system forces us to buy zen? i thought the dilithium reqs were removed, they were tiny to begin with on tribble if i remeber regardless,...
It doesn't force you to buy Zen, just stops your character's revenue from the supposed end game content by removing drops and dilithium reward.

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Originally Posted by elandarksky View Post
besides, its not 'FORCING', you dont even have to look at the reputation system, if you want new fangled abilities/passive bonuses you can, if you dont.. then you dont :p
If you want to compete in end game content, which is surely the point, then you have to spend in order to take full part at a level those you're playing with deserve. Enforced spending is perhaps a little excessive, but it's certainly not enticing spending as any good development would.

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Dont think PWE/Cryptic is holdling a phaser to our heads :p
Phasers don't really exist
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 520
# 6
11-14-2012, 08:54 AM
Has anyone else noticed a certain class a player showing up to defend these shameless acts of greed? I have, both here in the forums and in-game. People who defend corporate greed with greater and greater zeal the more out of control it becomes. You know them, both "in-here" and "out-there." They rave about "freedom" as though the measure of that were the powerful's ability to exploit others without complaint or interference.

They are the little rich kids you see spitting on homeless veterans and telling them to get jobs. They are the vulture real-estate agents who sweep in on foreclosed homes. They are the stock traders who sow chaos and misery for a few extra pennies they will never notice.

I have been a game-modder for over 15 years and during that time I have noticed a clear trend in the gaming industry toward rampant greed, scape-goating, and demonization (Mega Upload anyone?) It happened in publishing, it happened to films, it happened to music, and now it has happened in video games:

The industry is pioneered by artists, becomes profitable, and is then usurped by the most mindless, soulless beast on Earth: the bean counter. And its not just in creative endeavors linked to commerce either. Every surface has an add plastered on it. Neil degrass Tyson notes in his book, Death by Black Hole, that a major financial company once called him to inquire how they might project their logo on the moon.

All art has been replaced by advertising; all culture with commerce. The direction this game is going in is indicative of the same sickness that permeates human civilization today: Pathological and self-destructive greed.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 691
# 7
11-14-2012, 09:04 AM
Not sure about it being a fraud but it is certainly trying to force folks to buy extra inventory in the store. The amount of stuff they hope we will keep in the hope of getting a single extra mark is laughable. The Defera zone started this though with its consumables for its own crafting system.

We are seriously now at the point where we need to be able to BUY a crafting storage tab to hold all this junk being thrown at us (Particles (10), samples(24), rocks(4), neural borg stuff(3), flower (1), cortexes (1), dilithium chunks(2)).

Maybe a few more I have missed for sure as not sure what high level Reman stuff needs.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 59
# 8
11-14-2012, 09:12 AM
I was already at a point where I was outfitting my 2 new toons when everything changed. My main has basic Omega set and the Borg set, I was saving up for the unique DOFFs on that one. The other two were just getting started to gathering just the borg set. Now all that effort is for naught, now starting over, having to buy or collect a vast amount of trivial krap.

Trivial krap I need for my Starbase, or Embasy, or the next stupid thing they throw at us as something new and shiny to distract us form the fact they are robbing us of our ability achieve in a smooth and expected fashion.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 149
# 9 I agree Greed has takedn over!
11-14-2012, 12:43 PM
Well said ajstoner!

Well said indeed!


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Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 137
# 10
11-14-2012, 12:45 PM
It is not a reputation system, it is a bribe system.
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