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Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 21
11-14-2012, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by captainoblivous View Post
Other than the colony chains (which weren't exactly free, but reasonably cheap) how would you have gone about getting purples for free? I can't think of anything.
Asylums, Officer exchanges, a bunch of ways.....
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Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
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# 22
11-15-2012, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by markhawkman View Post
Asylums, Officer exchanges, a bunch of ways.....
Exchanges aren't free, asylums were the only ones.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 426
# 23
11-15-2012, 06:34 AM
Also, there were purples for less than 700k EC on the exchange. Cheap indeed.
Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 82
# 24
11-15-2012, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zerobang View Post
Snip
I'm a Space Taxi Driver now!
Okay I laughed.

Both because its funny and very true.

I'm also boycotting the doff grinder. My main is doing fine on his own roster. My two alts have mostly greens. I can live with that.


Though...

Who wants to bet next season its "Concern 1: Very few people are using the Doff grinder"?

Eh? Eh?
Rihannsu
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 13,027
# 25
11-15-2012, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cidstorm View Post
Exchanges aren't free, asylums were the only ones.
Bajoran officer Exchange might as well be free. You can send any non-civilian, non-photonic doff and possibly get back a purple. And it doesn't cost dil.. It's easier than asylum since you don't have to send a refugee.
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 191
# 26
11-15-2012, 08:45 PM
Like Seriously

I can understand the requirement to put cost to grinding. It's the same reasoning that they put dilithium on Crafting.

The big difference here is that it is prohibitively expensive, especially since that getting one purple DOff costs 12000 dilithium.

If you have to charge, don't charge what you are charging.

100 for Common -> Uncommon
500 for Uncommon -> Rare
1000 for Rare -> Very Rare.

Cut the General Recruitment pack to 500.

At the very most, Rare will now cost 2000 Dilithium instead of 5000, assuming you used the General Recruitment pack twice.

It also means that grinding for that Very Rare will now cost 11000 instead of 12000 dilithium by buying it outright, but I don't really trade in my Rares unless I have to.

It just strikes me that the devs didn't think things through about adding dilithium costs for converting officers. Had they done that there wouldn't be the uproar that there is now.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 447
# 27
11-15-2012, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by luxchristian View Post
Of course it is a cash grap. Bullying weak minded losers into buying dill with Zen is easier than making a Cryptic Store where you can buy non-bugged ships, bridges, boffs, costumes, pets etc .
Yes, exactly, and we hear all the typical excuses from our friends the PWE employees on their company accounts: "it's not that bad", "basically free" etc. Excuses for PWE's cash grab.

Bullying weakminded losers is easier than making a quality game. Especially now that they can hire other losers with BAs in psychology to sit at a terminal posting for them all day for $8 an hour ^ _ ^

Good PR is more profitable than good programming!
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,202
# 28
11-16-2012, 03:34 AM
No, a purple doff is worth exactly:
- spend 5 min to go to a nebula
- slot a support mission
- wait for 4h, if it crits, enjoy. Get a refugee you can also turn into a purple with luck.

or:
- choose a white/green/blue/support doff, check BU, AT, ZA, and use it into an exchange mission. Enjoy a purple with a 20% average chance.

or:
- turn your extra CXP into fleet credits, buy purple doffs, enjoy.

Saying a purple doff costs 55k dilithium is lazyness or complete ignorance of the doff system, and I know you perfectly know how it works.

A few months ago, we had no grinder and it was perfectly fine. The grinder was introduced to help us upgrading our starbases to meet the green and blue doff requirements. Now that the community has moaned enough to remove those, it's legitimate to increase the cost of these doffs we don't need anymore. In no way they are required, now the only use of the grinder is lazyness to upgrade your own roster.

And the bright side of the update is that purple doffs will be better valued (hopefully), which means more money for doffers willing to sell a part of their roster. Ignorance is always blamable, if people pay for doffs because they don't want to learn how it works i won't feel sad for them.

My only regret is about the free academy pack, it wasn't really hurting the game.

Last edited by diogene0; 11-16-2012 at 03:44 AM.
Commander
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Posts: 312
# 29
11-16-2012, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
No, a purple doff is worth exactly:
- spend 5 min to go to a nebula
Ignorance is always blamable, if people pay for doffs because they don't want to learn how it works i won't feel sad for them.

My only regret is about the free academy pack, it wasn't really hurting the game.
But whining is always easier thank thinking xD An obviously more fun than playing another game to a lot of people :-P
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 44
# 30
11-16-2012, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by diogene0 View Post
the bright side of the update is that purple doffs will be better valued (hopefully), which means more money for doffers willing to sell a part of their roster. Ignorance is always blamable, if people pay for doffs because they don't want to learn how it works i won't feel sad for them.

purple doffs may go up but at the cost of greens and blues being worthless so people will turn them in to whites making the price of whites also drop to almost nothing. If they where trying to up the sale of doff pack than this was the wrong way to do it because people are not going to pay 200 zen for worthless doffs.
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