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# 21
11-14-2012, 05:20 PM
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LMFAO!! Cryptic doesn't listen. Period. I am convinced they planned this as a "throw them a bone to distract them" move. It was planned ahead of time Even if it hadn't been it's still a massive reduction in the dil you got before, with an exponential increase in all goods/services that require dil (which didn't before). You and your cronies are just part of the problem.
Bias and blindness to the overall situation doesn't help solve that problem either... either for or against Cryptic.
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# 22
11-14-2012, 05:30 PM
This doesn't address the glaring issue of the huge dilithium paywall that has gone up around STF loot. It merely cancels, in part, a threat to eliminate many existing ways for players to earn dilithium, and hopes nobody will bring up the elephant in the room. They are still increasing the hassle by a thousand percent and charging us a hefty fee for it, in a currency that already has a daily cap on it.
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# 23
11-14-2012, 05:36 PM
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Only AFKing STFs until there are quality rewards for beating the optional and random loot.
So, you're going to leech on others work?
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# 24
11-14-2012, 05:38 PM
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Bias and blindness to the overall situation doesn't help solve that problem either... either for or against Cryptic.
You can't very well be calling me biased for objectively understanding what their business model is and how they deploy said model? That puts you in the yes-man boot licker category, if so. That lot seems to insult or tear into anybody that points out how 2-faced and bad the cryptic decisions are. Are you a cryptic yes-man?
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# 25
11-14-2012, 05:39 PM
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I am sure there will be some whiners that will never be pleased
and there will always be CDer
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This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
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# 26
11-14-2012, 05:45 PM
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You can't very well be calling me biased for objectively understanding what their business model is and how they deploy said model? That puts you in the yes-man boot licker category, if so. That lot seems to insult or tear into anybody that points out how 2-faced and bad the cryptic decisions are. Are you a cryptic yes-man?
You may think you're objectively understanding, but how can you be sure you are? Because how I read it, it didn't seem like it, hence my post. I could be wrong; you could be wrong, or we could be wrong... who really knows?

And I've already got a reputation for that anyway, exaggerated as it may be.

And I'm saying, blaming them for the issues isn't the issue. It's just sickening when people assume something is true when they have no proof, or think they know better when they're just as much in the dark as the rest of us are (your 'doesn't listen. period' statement). Getting feedback and choosing whether or not to implement it, with various factors involved, is not nearly as simple as "yes, we're doing it" or "no, we're not doing it".

People may only see the bottom line, but there's much to it that needs to be considered.
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# 27
11-14-2012, 05:49 PM
Trek21, you cloak your words in a prose you'd have others take as wisdom and impartiality, but it's a farce. Your phrasing and word choice leads me to believe you really don't understand much about how the real world works, or PW's prior practices, or how other games have self-capsized in the past.

Sorry, I'm not buying any of your commentary. You don't have a clue.
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# 28
11-14-2012, 05:55 PM
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Trek21, you cloak your words in a prose you'd have others take as wisdom and impartiality, but it's a farce. Your phrasing and word choice leads me to believe you really don't understand much about how the real world works, or PW's prior practices, or how other games have self-capsized in the past.

Sorry, I'm not buying any of your commentary. You don't have a clue.
No one said you had to buy it, just to listen

I'm just saying, some caution, patience and tolerance are called for, no matter how many lines have been crossed.

I understand how the real world works, but I am practically immune to being burned, lied to, or disrespected (this I learned from experience). I'm nearly impossible to offend, and I don't know what line, if any, I have to cross.

I speak things like this because I can. Otherwise I'd be speaking a different tune.
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# 29
11-14-2012, 05:57 PM
I have been through 7 different seasons and each with its own problems. Never before in the history of this game devs listen to peeps so right away and at least "try" to compromise in a solution.

For what is worth KUDOS to them and yes I'm very happy for the prompt reversal...don't think you would such response in any other MMOs
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# 30
11-14-2012, 06:00 PM
I'm pretty happy this this. We got what we needed, thats all I ask for.
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