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# 11
11-14-2012, 11:31 PM
Saber = better
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# 12
11-14-2012, 11:40 PM
Patch notes...

Updated the T5 Steamrunner base stats.
All base stats, HP, Shields, etc., were increased to T5 levels, including Shield Modifier.

Hum, seems they buffed it even more lol !
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# 13
11-15-2012, 12:14 AM
The two ships are not in the C-Store yet, right?
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# 14
11-15-2012, 12:15 AM
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The two ships are not in the C-Store yet, right?
That is correct, Steam only atm.

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# 15
11-15-2012, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rudiefix1 View Post
Saber = better
I fly the saber, it's shield mod is something like .79 right? Those shields are paper thin despite the sci console advantage. It's hull is much worse too, the only thing the ship has going for it is its turn rate which makes it a great duelist but a poor team player imo.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.
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# 16
11-15-2012, 01:45 AM
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Saber = better
the saber is down on raw numbers quite a bit. even though its got an extra chunk of hitpoints to go with its shield mod, once the shields on the steamy are fixed it will be hard to beat. its got the best self preservation capacity an escort can have.
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# 17
11-15-2012, 01:49 AM
rawr looks awesome....hopefully ill have time to go grab a $10 steam card at gamestop befoer the sale ends in 14 and 1/2 hours lol

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I find this line of replies sadly hilarious. We put a lot of work into the massive list of fixes/changes above, and ya'll are hung up on the ability to skip our content. =p
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# 18
11-15-2012, 02:34 AM
Vesta...Steamrunner...3 versions of the first, two of the second, and stats in the same ballpark as the Fleet Defiant and Bugship for the Steamrunner, plus gear and magic-powers-console.

D'you suppose the Devs might be under the impression that Feds can't fly without broken gear?
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# 19
11-15-2012, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
the saber is down on raw numbers quite a bit. even though its got an extra chunk of hitpoints to go with its shield mod, once the shields on the steamy are fixed it will be hard to beat. its got the best self preservation capacity an escort can have.
Pretty much.

I just checked a bunch of deets on the saber vs. steamrunner. For a loss of one turn point and one tier 2 sci ability you are getting: an extra tier 2 eng ability, 17-18% more shields, almost 4 thousand hp, and +150 crew.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.

Last edited by cidstorm; 11-17-2012 at 07:14 AM.
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# 20
11-15-2012, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cidstorm View Post
Pretty much.

I just checked a bunch of deets on the saber vs. steamrunner. For a loss of one turn point and one tier 2 sci ability you are getting: an extra tier 2 eng ability, 2-3% more shields, almost 4 thousand hp, an extra eng console, and +150 crew.
Both ships have its merits I guess. I like all TNG era ships
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