Lieutenant
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 11
11-15-2012, 11:03 AM
Nerfed?!

Give me a flippin' break.

IT'S THE BORG QUEEN.

Other players have beaten her. It's not impossible, or even reliant upon luck. She's hella-hard, but that's perfect for somebody that's intended to be as bada$$ as the leader of one of the greatest threats this galaxy has ever known.
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# 12
11-15-2012, 11:34 AM
Ive not played elite so cant comment but there is not much wrong with normal. its no harder than any of the others.

the final borg queen fight is a bit long winded if you dont have much dps, but its ok.

like i said cant comment on elite. i imagine that could be a nightmare.

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# 13
11-15-2012, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by captainrevo1 View Post
Ive not played elite so cant comment but there is not much wrong with normal. its no harder than any of the others.

the final borg queen fight is a bit long winded if you dont have much dps, but its ok.

like i said cant comment on elite. i imagine that could be a nightmare.
Like ANY STF on 'elite' you need to stock up on spare parts if you don't want to fail out of the mission entirely, and teamwork is a MUST DO.

which means no Kirking in rainbow or skittleboats, no "I'm a badass" and for ghod's sake, no Trash-Talk until AFTER the queen's toast is hashed.

as I said before, it's DARN useful to have someone in the team who can lay down SNB-especially on the Queen herself-she uses LOTS of science powers and buffs, stripping those is high-priority if you actually want to drop her.

Drains are ALSO very useful in this mission, along with other de-buffs, and attack pattern Omega is a 'go-to' ability you need to run at least ONE copy of due to the spamming tractor-probes.

If you play KDF a lot on Ker'rat or in the Puggie PvP ques, you should be familiar with the 'fun' of Danoob tractor-spams that accompany Fed carriers-in the case of THIS mission, the "Danubes" are cruiser-sized and escort-manueverable Borg Tractor probes, but they behave much the same way minus some of the vulnerabilities.

Dealing with them, however, is similar-you need to be able to break tractor locks pretty much 'on demand', buff your resistances and use attack patterns and Tac Team in chained arrangements. Don't expect to spend a lot of time cloaked-there is enough canned in bridge dialogue to keep you de-cloaked when you need it most, or render you vulnerable at precisely the wrong time.

Keep ready-copies of your resistance buffs handy, because the unimatrix ships and the queen BOTH use SNB on you, and have a very extraspecial hatred for KDF ships in particular-maybe we do too much damage, or maybe it's in the coding somewhere, I do not know-but I do know that distracting them just by decloaking DOES draw fire even if you haven't hit the firing button yet-which can be of some use to the team, but is hard as hell on your ship.
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# 14
11-15-2012, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by edalgo View Post
Its fine just the way it is. It's a challenge! It makes you work as a team. Rethink your build but also rethink your tactics.
^This^. I want a chance to figure this one out, before we start calling for nerfs. Yeah, it's brutal. I love it. All of my ships I use for STFs, while different, are essentially setup the same. To achieve maximum DPS. Now, suddenly, I'm thinking about defense and team heals.

Hold off there Cryptic, if you're reading this here. We're just getting started on this one.


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Originally Posted by killjack0 View Post
I absolutely agree she needs a nerf even in the normal difficulty, there is no way that this mission is capable of being completed in 25min.
?

First time I played it, I joined a random PUG on normal and we hit every optional.

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# 15
11-15-2012, 02:45 PM
Don't take this the wrong way OP, but you're a wimp.

The borg can fight back now and actually hurt you, and you complain. You can't faceroll them anymore and they actually require skill to beat, and you complain. They are actually like the borg really are, and you complain.

Before you respond, think carefully about where you are. YOU ARE IN THE CENTRAL UNIMATRIX. Did it ever occur to you that the borg would have their most powerful ships and technology there? Herpa Derp. If they have their best stuff there, DUR they are gonna hurt, DUR they won't be easy to faceroll, and DUR they will be able to give you some pain.

Suck it up and just fight.
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# 16
11-15-2012, 02:49 PM
First run on elite with 4 fleeties and one pug,optional done and two of us died once.
it does not need nerfing at all.its fine.
Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 17
11-15-2012, 03:22 PM
Yet to play Elite so I cant comment Either.

Normal Space Borg Queen does not need a nerf. I only died twice in a Atrox. Once because I got too close to an exploding cube. And the second because right after the cutscene I was caught between the two Command Ships.

Guess who got double shotted by their spinal lances?

This guy.

XD

But the Queen was kind of a pushover at least for me.

Target Subsystem. I was using that constantly. Doesnt matter what. As soon as it comes off cooldown fire it off. Free. Doesnt take up a Boff slot too.

Sci ships Tyken or Energy Siphon. I lean towards Energy Siphon since the Queen likes to move around. If she hits a power to engines right as you fire off a Tyken it's wasted.

Carriers really are OP in this fight though.

At least the pets are since They can AND will pull aggro off your teammates. I've seen it happen. She goes from hitting the escort to hitting my advanced stalker fighters. Jokes on the Queen Though I have an infinite amount of fighters.
Captain
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# 18
11-16-2012, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by pantsmaster916 View Post
Nerfed?!

Give me a flippin' break.

IT'S THE BORG QUEEN.

Other players have beaten her. It's not impossible, or even reliant upon luck. She's hella-hard, but that's perfect for somebody that's intended to be as bada$$ as the leader of one of the greatest threats this galaxy has ever known.
Hit the nail right on the head there, when dealing with the queen expect heavy resistance
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# 19
11-16-2012, 10:10 AM
Beat this perfectly fine last night. Only optional we didn't get was the 6 tactical cubes in 10 minutes, but we were close. It just takes a good variety of ships, decent dps and abilities, communication, and some planning.
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 20
11-17-2012, 01:22 AM
DO NOT NERF!!!

You do not need to play this mission for Omega Marks. You can do an easy Infected Space or something....
If you find the new STFs too difficult then play the old ones. They give the same rewards.


Some of us want something challenging. I would say they should, beef the mission up a bit more! Same goes for the ground one! In the room with the 8 consoles we should be fighting 4 x Elite Tactical Dones at each console.

These two new missions should require careful planning of your team makeup. No DPS boosting through! There should be a need for Shutdown abilities, heals, and DPS.

How many people have a keybind for distribute shields? How many people understand that with balanced shields you can increase your heals 4 fold? These missions should require you to figure out how to be the best. And if you have to warp out 15 min later, because you brought in the wrong team, then great! With PvP dying there should be something else that is a challenge.
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