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# 21
11-16-2012, 12:45 PM
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C-Store ships, yes, there have been more Fed ships lately than KDF ships I'm talking about Fleet Ships -- we're looking at which ships we can add to the Fleet Shipyard, and that includes looking at both Fed and KDF ships.

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Brandon =/\=
... fleet ships do not win the race against ships like the Armitage, Regents, Vesta's, & Lockbox ships.

Lately? How about the last year.
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# 22
11-16-2012, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pwebranflakes View Post
C-Store ships, yes, there have been more Fed ships lately than KDF ships I'm talking about Fleet Ships -- we're looking at which ships we can add to the Fleet Shipyard, and that includes looking at both Fed and KDF ships.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
i just had a thought, how about additional versions of current fleet ships? like the fleet heavy cruiser having a LTC tactical to make up for no fleet excelsior. call it fleet heavy cruiser variant. would love to have maybe a negvar with an excelsior like LTC tac too. and the fleet galaxy, that desperately needs a variant with a better station setup, or at least a universal ensign station.
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# 23
11-16-2012, 12:48 PM
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... fleet ships do not win the race against ships like the Armitage, Regents, Vesta's, & Lockbox ships.

Lately? How about the last year.
I edited my post as you quoted it, it seems. The last KDF specific ship was the Temporal ship in the Lock Box and Destroyer in the Lobi store, and the one before that was the Bortasqu'. I personally would love to see more KDF ships, and I know the community would as well.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
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# 24
11-16-2012, 12:52 PM
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I edited my post as you quoted it, it seems. The last KDF specific ship was the Temporal ship in the Lock Box, and the one before that was the Bortasqu'. I personally would love to see more KDF ships, and I know the community would as well.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
Yes, I did quote you as no-one at Cryptic seems to give a d%%m about the KDF customers.

Both you and I know that you cannot equate a C-store guarantee with a Lockbox ship.

I have been playing PvP for two years, and even I can tell when something is completely wrong by releasing a ship like the Vesta to one faction.

On top of that you release consoles and abilities that are 100% designed for PvP.

What are the KDF suppose to counter a team with the "Godmode" button within reach ever sec?

Did the devs consider that there could be a chain-of-powers occurring with experienced teams???

But hey, whom I to moan right?

Lets see where the Vesta takes PvP.

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# 25
11-16-2012, 12:57 PM
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I have been playing PvP for two years, and even I can tell when something is completely wrong by releasing a ship like the Vesta to one faction.
For the Vesta, are you referring to the "perfect shield"? I feel that the Kar'Fi Carrier is actually similar with Phase Shift, except with PS, you can still fire weapons. It also has a hangar.

We had a dedicated group from the PvP community test out the Vesta and the feedback received from them influenced some of the changes that were made, but they did not feel it was not OP or could not be countered by KDF ships.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
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# 26
11-16-2012, 12:58 PM
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For the Vesta, are you referring to the "perfect shield"? I feel that the Kar'Fi Carrier is actually similar with Phase Shift, except with PS, you can still fire weapons. It also has a hangar.

We had a dedicated group from the PvP community test out the Vesta and the feedback received from them influenced some of the changes that were made, but they did not feel it was not OP or could not be countered by KDF ships.

Cheers,

Brandon =/\=
How many of those "testers" were from Fed Premades? I for one would like to know who they are and which fleets they come from. No I do not believe objectivity is achieved when the test, participants and results are kept secret from all the community.

Throughout all this testing that was going on, not a single word about the Vesta on any Tribble forum or discussion. And what about the Steam surprise. Tested? Cryptic, didn't think that in the spirit of S7, with so many peoples hopes up, 1 little KDF ship could be sprung as a surprise?!? Shocking. Absolutely Shocking.

And I was referring the AoE healing, the Offensive abilities, the Danubes, the etc. I am experienced enough to know what can be done with the Vesta. So are every single one of those mystery testers.

I am betting that the responses were not, "She a good balanced ship." It was more like, "Oh my G@d when is she being release I cannot wait to buy this...." There's an old proverb, "if the mountain won't come to Muhammad, then Muhammad must go to the mountain." That's the way of things now.

You created a Faction capable of having CC/debuff pets across all careers and classes of ship. If the devs cannot see that as ridiculously OP, they really should take a break once in a while.

I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU HAD ENERGY SIPHON CRUISERS, CARRIERS AND ESCORTS IN THE KDF?

I wonder what the Feds would say...

Last edited by drkfrontiers; 11-16-2012 at 01:47 PM.
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# 27
11-16-2012, 01:02 PM
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-- we're looking at which ships we can add to the Fleet Shipyard --
Please, please, please, PLEASE!

Add the Exeter (with TMP Skin option) as a Fleet ship. Guaranteed 150 sales from my fleet alone!

DO IT!
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If the KDF can get a Fleet D7, the Feds should have a Fleet Exeter.
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# 28
11-16-2012, 01:03 PM
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Now that the new season is upon us, will there be additional fleet ships to keep us...invested in upgrading our fleet bases?

Fleet Assault Cruiser?

Fleet Science Ships for KDF?

Will ships like the Excelsior and Dreadnought Cruiser have a fleet version, even without their inherent abilities?
BTW it should be Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit as in a Fleet Regent not Fleet Soveriegn.

Otherwise I entirely agree with the questions, seem some obvious (to a player) gaps.

Also never mind adding ships but were did the 200,000 Fleet Credit
tier 2 shipyard Star Cruiser go? They're actually taking them away, put them back asap!
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# 29
11-16-2012, 01:12 PM
yes there is fleet versions on karfi galaxy X so i would asume there would be fleet version of cstore consoles these will probably be released season 8
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# 30
11-16-2012, 01:15 PM
the only c store ship for the kdf in the past two years is the bortasq.

You can argue that the loby/lockbox ships are kdf ships, i guess, but i can't play the lockbox game because I am an adult.

I own all kdf cstore ships except the gurumba though.
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