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# 321
11-16-2012, 10:24 AM
Originally Posted by grylak View Post
It shows love that they are giving us a new piece of artwork.

Ok, I may have gone a bit overboard with my rant earlier. The point is though, this is not a recruitment drive for the army. This is not meant to be a realistic dipiction of military people. It's just meant to be an eye catching graphic about some random person doing something random. For a game. I don't get all this hate for this. I don't want it to be 100% realistic military. That is an entirely different target audience with an entirely different need. That is not fun. This is a game. It is meant to be fun.

And before anyone says I'm one of those breast obbsessed males, I'd be just as happily defeanding a bare chested guy up there if it looked like he was in a fight.

The addressing the balance was not aimed at this particular piece. It was aimed at other thigns they do. Such as everyone crying for the Borg to be an unstoppable force and not a joke, and when that happens, everyone cries for the Borg to be nerfed because they are too difficult.
I still think the mascot should be more representative of the game and its theme. However, I do see your points and I agree there are different perspectives.
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# 322
11-16-2012, 10:27 AM
Originally Posted by psycoticvulcan View Post
You're probably right. But I don't see how replacing Handsome Phaser Guy with that helps the balance or shows love to the fanbase.
Handsome Phaser Guy had two years up there. Now it's Attractive Phaser Lady's turn for the next two years. Call it equal opportunity! For year five it's going to be a Hermat!

And for everyone criticizing the unrealistic nature of what she's's possible that she's at a diplomatic function at an Embassy that is suffering an UNEXPECTED Tal'Shiar attack.

And as I recall, US Military female dress uniforms (like one you'd wear for a diplomatic function) allowed for a skirt that reaches to just above the knees. And as soon as they sit down, it goes halfway up the thighs.

Not that I noticed that sort of thing.

Just sayin'.
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# 323
11-16-2012, 10:35 AM
Selective reading, hoo.

They put him back to the game's "About" page.

Why is the "USA Current Military style of the late 20th early 21st century" the *Only* way people think a military should and could be in a futuristic setting?

This is not just about uniforms, but everything. Ranks, roles, organisation too.

I had a LOT of trouble in my guild, because a lot of people were thinking that Starfleet is simply the contemporary US military 'IN SPACE' , instead of the more UN and NASA like organisation they are.

The Neimoidians reliance on Robotics was another good twist, as themselves were not much of a warrior race, they used their technology and money to purchase droids to fight for them.

The Tau Empire on the other hand has a rigid soldier caste system with its various trials as one advances in the ranks upwards.

So other franchises can come up with interesting new militaries, why would Trek not do the same?

STO offers the less military Feds and the more barbaric Klingons currently, thought the latter do lack content a little.

If we want to play in the modern US military style, there are a LOT, a lot of famous and well done games that do that.
Call of Duty is a good example, and there is the always popular Counter Strike.
But it should not be forcefully dragged into places it does not necessarily belong to, like fictional aliens and civilisations.

I'm pretty sure that Vulcans would put someone in command whose skills are tested to be good for command, no matter his or her age or looks.
Logically they would ignore her dress code, age, looks, tea preferences and everything else in favour of her command skills.
Even bad shooting skills would be dismissed if she shows tactical and strategic competence.
So who cares if she prefers vulcan tea, or green tea? Or if she prefers to wear a robe, or that outfit on the picture? All she needs is tactical aptitude and a good grasp of 3D combat.

Also, she may just have been walking around on the colony, maybe studying those colourful six eyed romulan bunny-pigs.
Epohs don't really need you to wear body armor to tag them, do they?
I also don't see tagging them as a military expedition, more like a scientific or volunteer type of work.

Then as she was wandering the area, a cloaked Hirogen sneaked into the area, and she was caught by surprise. That's why she had that joke of a pistol instead of a proper rifle and armour, see! And it may explain her strange running-bending pose . (This is just a wild theory, of course)

And yes... Star Trek was (And still is) pretty much always aiming for the benevolent liberal style.
Part of that is letting people wear what they want to wear.

Stereotyping women based on a jacket? That... that is not really Federation-friendly at all.
What is happening next, are people going to abuse poor Captain Kirk for his ripped shirts?

I know at least two attractive women who dress just like that vulcan on the artwork, and they respectivly have a degree in Law and Economic studies.
They are loyal and intelligent people, not Kelly Bundy look alikes. (And I think Christina Applegate is quite intelligent too in real life)

Nerd rant over, time to do the economic part.

If I view this from the marketing perspective, its a stroke of genius.

It targets around 95% of the playerbase, and such things can really lend a game advantage.
It appeals to any person of both genders who finds females attractive, and also appeals to females who wants to look like that. So it covers almost everybody.
That's the harsh reality of the situation. It appeals to the majority, and the majority is what businesses need to attract. The needs of the many indeed.
Even PWE must know that.

It may not appeal to really hard core conservative people, but Star Trek is hardly their franchise at all.
To be honest no PR person in their right mind would even expect them to play this game in any large numbers.

Of course, it could be topped by Phaser guy with his shirt ripped or open standing next to her, if only a way could be found to squeeze both of them onto the main page without making both of them look way too small.
That may take a lot of UI working though, so may not be worth doing from a monetary standpoint.
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# 324
11-16-2012, 11:12 AM
Please, why not make a player contest? I'm sure someone among us can draw better than the author of that nonsense on the front page.

"Draw a scantily clad attractive female on a backdrop of New Romulus firing her phaser at an unknown entity."

Or just bring the phaser guy back.

Either way I'm happy. Just no more of this falling dreamy witch ...
TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans

Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
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# 325
11-16-2012, 11:28 AM
Frankly I'm sure the majority is fine with it.

But I would be a hypocrite if I would not support a poll to prove that.
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# 326
11-16-2012, 02:47 PM
Well, maybe kirk can teach us a lesson...
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# 327
11-16-2012, 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by captainconrad View Post
3) and final note, I had better not be the only one who sees this, BUT WHY DOES SHE LOOK LIKE THE GIRL FROM TWILIGHT!?!?!?!?!?!?! Seriously, I can't be the only one who noticed!!!
I just got the STO Season 7 email with T'Boobs. The emotionless face. The hair. The dour eyes.

Fark, it's true. It's T'Pants.

I don't care how long you've been playing. I only care about how you play.
And remember to follow the rules.
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# 328 Conrad's Two Cents Rebuttal
11-16-2012, 04:13 PM
I'm not saying I have a problem that she's a chick. I'm saying I have issues with the fact that she's freakin T'Bella.

Now I have never personally seen Twilight and I never intend to, but the fact that STO now has a resemblance to a chick from a pop cultural annoyance. Star Trek is better than this and the fact that this game can now be associated with that series, annoys me!

Everything else is cool though.
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# 329 Things you can't un-see...
11-16-2012, 04:18 PM
Phaser "hottie" looks exactly like the chick from Twilight:

There. Now you can't un-see it. Enjoy your regular visits to the homepage!

I'd rather this be our poster chick
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# 330
11-16-2012, 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by captainconrad View Post
I'd rather this be our poster chick
Woks for me

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